[Updated] New petrol & diesel car sales banned from 2030
29-07-2017, 00:35
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
It's going to happen either way. The car companies are moving in that direction and the flexibility it gives to government energy policy is appealing as well. People are arguing as if this isn't already the path we're on. Maybe a government can come in and mandate we scale back plans to implement electric stations and promote petrol but it would be the same as a government coming in attempting to promote the post over e-mail. This is the path technology is taking.
The problem isn't charging stations but generating the energy. Governments need to look at that. We need more nuclear power plants, we need to look at integrating more solar energy into the network.
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29-07-2017, 05:49
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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Old people are like that Dave
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You will of course be like that one day and with that can come considered thought and pangs of wisdom young chap of course along with a few senior moments as well.
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Originally Posted by Damien
It's going to happen either way. The car companies are moving in that direction and the flexibility it gives to government energy policy is appealing as well. People are arguing as if this isn't already the path we're on. Maybe a government can come in and mandate we scale back plans to implement electric stations and promote petrol but it would be the same as a government coming in attempting to promote the post over e-mail. This is the path technology is taking.
The problem isn't charging stations but generating the energy. Governments need to look at that. We need more nuclear power plants, we need to look at integrating more solar energy into the network.
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Our future energy plans for the future have not exactly been great these last 40 years have they?.
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29-07-2017, 06:33
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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We've been using them for 12 months or so and having used them they seem pretty fit for purpose.
http://news.leeds.gov.uk/power-surge...goes-electric/
I heard someone mention a few weeks ago that the plan is to make electric vehicles the default going forward and anything else will require a business case.
It does make me smile when people just seem so opposed to change.
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but then if i wanted an electric vehicle i would already own one . i don't and have no plans to buy one , anyway a future government might scrap the idea as an unattainable pipe dream .
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29-07-2017, 10:28
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
Future governments may not have a choice.
If there is a general move to electric and hybrid cars across the world, then it's very unlikely that car manufactures would continue to build full petrol or diesel cars for a single market. That's irrespective of what sort of trading relationship with have with countries.
So we can either look to move in the same direction and the government can ensure that we have the appropriate infrastructure, or we can ignore it, and wonder why we have a limited car market.
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29-07-2017, 10:45
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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You will of course be like that one day and with that can come considered thought and pangs of wisdom young chap of course along with a few senior moments as well.
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But I won't be old before my time .
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Future governments may not have a choice.
If there is a general move to electric and hybrid cars across the world, then it's very unlikely that car manufactures would continue to build full petrol or diesel cars for a single market. That's irrespective of what sort of trading relationship with have with countries.
So we can either look to move in the same direction and the government can ensure that we have the appropriate infrastructure, or we can ignore it, and wonder why we have a limited car market.
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Spot on. We can't resist the irresistible especially when it makes perfect sense. We should be on this course now not in 20 years time.
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29-07-2017, 10:46
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
Future governments may not have a choice.
If there is a general move to electric and hybrid cars across the world, then it's very unlikely that car manufactures would continue to build full petrol or diesel cars for a single market. That's irrespective of what sort of trading relationship with have with countries.
So we can either look to move in the same direction and the government can ensure that we have the appropriate infrastructure, or we can ignore it, and wonder why we have a limited car market.
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hybrids i could go for [petrol/diesel and electric ] but full electric i don't see it
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29-07-2017, 10:49
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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hybrids i could go for [petrol/diesel and electric ] but full electric i don't see it
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A good start papa; it shows willing. But full electric will happen and I think you'll look back at the old days of ridiculous combustion pollution and think "omg". Do it for the little smurfs .
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29-07-2017, 10:51
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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But I won't be old before my time .
Spot on. We can't resist the irresistible especially when it makes perfect sense. We should be on this course now not in 20 years time.
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Q how do you get to be so old
A by not being cheeky to your elders
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29-07-2017, 10:53
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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Q how do you get to be so old
A by not being cheeky to your elders
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I put Den at about, hmm, 104? Sadly
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29-07-2017, 10:55
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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A good start papa; it shows willing. But full electric will happen and I think you'll look back at the old days of ridiculous combustion pollution and think "omg". Do it for the little smurfs .
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little they're bigger than me
i think in the future if i have a mobility scooter i will take the vacuum cleaner motor out of it and fit a Harley 1200 a man needs street cred .
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I put Den at about, hmm, 104? Sadly
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thats sad
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29-07-2017, 10:55
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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I put Den at about, hmm, 104? Sadly
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The E class awaits for you then.
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29-07-2017, 10:55
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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little they're bigger than me
i think in the future if i have a mobility scooter i will take the vacuum cleaner motor out of it and fit a Harley 1200 a man needs street cred .
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Not sure your motability contract will allow that
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The E class awaits for you then.
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Mercedes?
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29-07-2017, 10:57
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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Not sure your motability contract will allow that
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i'll do a diddle i've learned a lot on this forum
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29-07-2017, 11:01
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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i'll do a diddle i've learned a lot on this forum
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PIP-a-dee doo dah
PIP-a-dee yay
My oh my
Benefits coming your way
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29-07-2017, 11:05
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.
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Not sure your motability contract will allow that
Mercedes?
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I was thinking more along the lines of educational young man.
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i'll do a diddle i've learned a lot on this forum
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All good l hope as we like to keep people on the straight and narrow.
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