Brexit (Old)

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

So if the British people vote to overturn the previous vote of the British people, the British people are breaking the faith of the British people?

Absolutely!

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Originally Posted by jfman

The loser’s vote, which I will term the “well-informed vote” will be a more up to date reflection of democracy than the old one.

That’s only because we established several weeks ago that you were one of the that - by your own admission - didn’t understand what you were voting for.....

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Originally Posted by jfman

I think crashing is the most appropriate word. It suggests uncontrolled, which is exactly what this is.
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Nope there is a process we are following...........it is uncontrolled

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Absolutely!

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That’s only because we established several weeks ago that you were one of the that - by your own admission - didn’t understand what you were voting for.....

I think it is you who are the dunce. I’m sure you will not find me admitting that I didn’t understand my vote. My vote was to remain, which literally wasn’t a vote to do anything.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Nope there is a process we are following...........it is uncontrolled

That’s what I said. Do you want to borrow a hat?

Originally Posted by jfman

I think crashing is the most appropriate word. It suggests uncontrolled, which is exactly what this is

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

The problem with petitions is that the social media echo chambers, on issues of national important, easily create tens of thousands/hundreds of thousands of signatures.

Funny that, just a couple of months ago the liked of 1andrew1 and Mr K held a lot of faith in petitions.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Happy now that you concur that they were talking bollocks.

Thanks for the clarification

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The EU will announce proposals this week which will keep planes in the air and goods flowing across the Channel until at least 2020.

Of course they ffff’n will, and all the project fear numbnuts that spouted that planes wouldn’t fly and there’ll be no medicine, or food, and the sun will implode, and dogs and cats living together may finally admit that they’re either very gullible or just of a nervous imposition.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Funny that, just a couple of months ago the liked of 1andrew1 and Mr K held a lot of faith in petitions.



Happy now that you concur that they were talking bollocks.

Thanks for the clarification

I’m not sure “talking bollocks” fits the continuous calls for posters to be respectful, but I’ll entertain your point.

One million people signing a petition is just that. More than the vast majority of petitions get, it indicates strong feeling on some level. However the nature of social media is that organised campaigns can achieve that kind of figure.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Corbyn threatens vote of no confidence in Government if not allowed vote on PM to be debated tomorrow.

He’s desperate to look like he’s doing something whilst doing nothing.......I can’t imagine an opposition leader being this inept.......but here he is.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

I’m not sure “talking bollocks” fits the continuous calls for posters to be respectful, but I’ll entertain your point.

It doesn't but it's Christmas.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by jfman

But she remains committed to her deal, and gets to stiff Rees-Mogg etc because no deal will be off the ballot once Parliament has had a say.

She can hand on heart stare down a TV camera and say she believes this is best for the country, delivers on the referendum result and the only way to achieve this is due to divisions in her party and the opposition is to have public support for it.

Why do you think she has been targeting people directly, and there are Government funded ads on social media “selling” her deal?

Originally Posted by jfman

I’m not sure “talking bollocks” fits the continuous calls for posters to be respectful, but I’ll entertain your point.

One million people signing a petition is just that. More than the vast majority of petitions get, it indicates strong feeling on some level. However the nature of social media is that organised campaigns can achieve that kind of figure.

Makes you wonder who's playing who here, aiming at the 'gullible' on social media reminds me of all the accusations against Russia

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Pierre

He’s desperate to look like he’s doing something whilst doing nothing.......I can’t imagine an opposition leader being this inept.......but here he is.

probably the worse leader labour ever had longing for a decent labour leader again

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Carth

Makes you wonder who's playing who here, aiming at the 'gullible' on social media reminds me of all the accusations against Russia

Both sides can effectively use social media. The hard part is telling the truth

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Dave42

probably the worse leader labour ever had longing for a decent labour leader again

As has been said before, he's the gift to the Conservative Party who keeps on giving be it Christmas, Easter or Spring.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

I think it is you who are the dunce. I’m sure you will not find me admitting that I didn’t understand my vote. My vote was to remain, which literally wasn’t a vote to do anything.

Well #4575

You came up with the old phrase “ that wasn’t On my ballot paper”. Which means you didn’t really understand what was on your ballot paper.

You can rebuff that assertion......but it’s a logical premise.

That’s what I said. Do you want to borrow a hat?

Obviously a typo, I of course meant the process was controlled. I thought an intelligent person such as yourself would realise that.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by jfman

Both sides can effectively use social media. The hard part is telling the truth

Truth? which fool brought that into the discussion?

I merely wondered if there were Government funded ads supporting the 'no deal' side of things . . . no need to answer, I guess we all know there isn't

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well #4575

You came up with the old phrase “ that wasn’t On my ballot paper”. Which means you didn’t really understand what was on your ballot paper.

You can rebuff that assertion......but it’s a logical premise.

So logical of course our politicians disagree. Instead we have May’s deal, Norway, Canada and an assortment of pluses.

If only they, and the electorate had all of your insight.

Obviously a typo, I of course meant the process was controlled. I thought an intelligent person such as yourself would realise that.

I’m not going to make assumptions about your ability to read/understand my posts nor ability to articulate your own.

[1andrew1]

Insightful comment from Sky's Faisal Islam

What this has smoked out is fact that the DUP leadership and the ERG leadership whilst sceptical of the claims of any change to Withdrawal Deal, have essentially now given the PM another month’s confidence...
Which is good for PM, but also justifies some caution on NC from Labour.

https://news.sky.com/story/live-ther...endum-11584184

[Mr K]

It's all games from all sides whilst the country goes down the pan. Guy Fawkes had the right idea...