President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
14-11-2018, 09:59
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Well as I have said previously, all former current living Presidents have benefitted financially from the office of presidency, particularly when they have left office. Look at how much Bill Clinton has made via speeches. In the decade or so after he left office, from 2001 through 2012, he made at least $104 million in speaking fees, according to The Washington Post.
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14-11-2018, 10:33
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The “when they left office” is important. We are talking about using the actual powers of the presidency whilst in office which you’re not allowed to do. Trump is free to make money on books about it, talks about it and so on when he is out of office.
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14-11-2018, 10:37
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There is no proof he is making money from his businesses while in office, it's just typical left wing conjecture to pin anything on him.
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15-11-2018, 01:29
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BREAKING: Stormy Daniels Attorney and long term President Trump critic, Michael Avenatti has been arrested by LAPD on alleged Domestic violence Felony charges. LAPD confirm BAIL is set at $50,000.
I guess that's his 2020 Presidential bid dashed then.....
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16-11-2018, 13:31
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I think its sad TRUMP is threatening california that he will STOP FEDERAL AID if they dont get the fires under control!!!!
http://www.vox.com/energy-and-enviro...climate-change
HOW ABOUT HE GET OFF HIS ASS AND HELP THEM!!!!!!!! -- He has more $$$$$ then anyone!!!!!!
Unreal bastard!!!!!!
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16-11-2018, 15:54
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-...tDyHYOs9k9DQw0
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A judge in Washington has ordered the White House to return CNN reporter Jim Acosta's press pass after it was revoked by the US Secret Service.
The judge's order says that the pass must be reinstated as a CNN lawsuit against Donald Trump continues.
The judge said the White House decision likely violated the journalist's right to due process and freedom of speech.
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16-11-2018, 16:14
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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There is no proof he is making money from his businesses while in office, it's just typical left wing conjecture to pin anything on him.
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Best he stops playing golf at his own resorts at every opportunity then.
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16-11-2018, 16:41
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Best he stops playing golf at his own resorts at every opportunity then.
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Then nothing. That's like me saying, you should stop sleeping in your own bed in your own house.
His golf courses to do what the hell he wants with.
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Pathetic. It should be up to the White House Secret Service who it lets in.
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16-11-2018, 17:03
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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Then nothing. That's like me saying, you should stop sleeping in your own bed in your own house.
His golf courses to do what the hell he wants with.
---------- Post added at 16:41 ---------- Previous post was at 16:39 ----------
Pathetic. It should be up to the White House Secret Service who it lets in.
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All the extra people he needs and the golf carts hired because he is POTUS the treasury gets charged for when he plays golf.
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16-11-2018, 18:00
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Yes, that's called Secret Service work expenses.
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16-11-2018, 18:17
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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Yes, that's called Secret Service work expenses.
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Thought it was called Green Fees at Golf courses? Someone needs to look into that, he might be paying fees out of the public purse that go back him as he owns the courses (add it to the list....)
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16-11-2018, 18:50
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Thought it was called Green Fees at Golf courses? Someone needs to look into that, he might be paying fees out of the public purse that go back him as he owns the courses (add it to the list....)
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More baseless rubbish from yourself. I don't see you complaining about former President Obama requesting over a million dollars in expenses for this year, quite a big tab for the tax payer to pay, for someone NOT in office.
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16-11-2018, 21:17
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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Best he stops playing golf at his own resorts at every opportunity then.
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From an ethical point of view, as President you should not be seen to profit directly from your position.
If Trump is sincere on draining the swamp, he would only play at his own resorts if he didn't benefit financially from doing so. That is what good practice looks like.
(I do get that many benefit in later years from biographies, speeches etc but two wrongs never make a right.)
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17-11-2018, 09:57
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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Yes, that's called Secret Service work expenses.
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But that’s a circular argument - if he wasn’t going to his golf courses, the expenses wouldn’t be incurred, and all the expenses paid when he goes to his golf courses go to his companies.
So he’s profiting every time he visits his golf courses (and that’s over 160 times since his inauguration).
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17-11-2018, 10:51
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Originally Posted by Hugh
But that’s a circular argument - if he wasn’t going to his golf courses, the expenses wouldn’t be incurred, and all the expenses paid when he goes to his golf courses go to his companies.
So he’s profiting every time he visits his golf courses (and that’s over 160 times since his inauguration).
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So you are denying a 72 ish old man a right to recreational activities, days off etc ?
It really does not matter, unless he directly profiting from foreign governments, heavily investing in his businesses in that it directly influences U.S policy, then that's when it matters. I believe that's covered by the Emoluments Clause. But there is nothing in the Constitution that says a Businessman-come President, has to cease his business, might be the ethical thing to do but it's not required by law and it's law that matters. Up to Congress to act on it.
Democrats may try to change something or set up a new bill or start an investigation, though they are severely limited if they try to aim for impeachment, given they do not control the Senate and that it's not a crime as it currently stands.
I really don't care one way or the other - when president Clinton and Obama can makes hundreds of thousands of dollars in one single speech, then whether in office or not, the office of presidency is a profitable one any way.
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