[Updated]U.S hold diplomatic Summit with North Korea

[adzii_nufc]

Here's the clip:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-a...der-for-summit

Shook hands in both countries. I hope this is the monumental turnaround it could be.

It is pretty extraordinary.

Both China and the U.S have played major roles in this and hopefully it will be more productive and long lasting then previous diplomatic attempts in the past. I think it will for two main reasons China is not as ready to support North Korean silliness as it has in the past recognising that it's economy is now too affected by global uncertainty and instability. Second reason is North Korea is on it's knees economically with too many dying of starvation and the people are getting more angry with their government with all it's fantastic claims kim needs to get decent food to the people and needs to completely reform the entire country.

China finally snapped late last year after NK's constant provocations.

And let’s remember they only snapped, after pressure and interventions from President Trump.

I think increasing regional instability played a part as well as NK's constant stupidity handing the U.S a reason to increase it's military presence. Trump has played a part in this but China was the big factor no longer supplying the fuel for kim's missile program hit NK hard and signalled even to the notoriously thick skinned NK's that times were changing and they couldn't continue as they had in the past. This might all still be nothing words have always been easy for NK sticking to agreements with actions will be the test.

Originally Posted by Mick

And let’s remember they only snapped, after pressure and interventions from President Trump.

Well to be fair they snapped because NK were actually testing the range of missiles, including flying them over Japan, and antagonising everyone in the region including the Americans. Trump taking an interest certainly added to that too.

As Rizzy pretty much said the last thing China want is increased American interest in the region! I think China and South Korea should take a lot of the credit but Trump has earned his share as well. He also gave cover to South Korea's President to meet with North Korea but announcing he would do so as well.

North Korea was flying missles for years. about 4-5 Presidents did nothing to promote peace. South Korea Minister today, said the Summit is down to Trump and it really is. This would not have happened under a Hillary Presidency.

Originally Posted by Mick

North Korea was flying missles for years. about 4-5 Presidents did nothing to promote peace. South Korea Minister today, said the Summit is down to Trump and it really is. This would not have happened under a Hillary Presidency.

I was just talking about the circumstances here rather than getting into a Trump fight. I said he was a factor but there were others.

And yes they did fly missiles for years but nothing like the range and amount we saw last year. As an example over all of Obama's term they fired 12 missles a lot of which were satellites and the rest being short range missiles rather than intercontinental missiles.

The reason why people started getting concerned and China finally had enough was last year they fired 16 missiles including intercontinental missiles capable of holding nuclear warheads. That's why N.Korea became a massive issue last year.

As I said Trump can definitely share in the credit though for the reasons I gave above.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Damien

I was just talking about the circumstances here rather than getting into a Trump fight. I said he was a factor but there were others.

And yes they did fly missiles for years but nothing like the range and amount we saw last year. As an example over all of Obama's term they fired 12 missles a lot of which were satellites and the rest being short range missiles rather than intercontinental missiles.

The reason why people started getting concerned and China finally had enough was last year they fired 16 missiles including intercontinental missiles capable of holding nuclear warheads. That's why N.Korea became a massive issue last year.

As I said Trump can definitely share in the credit though for the reasons I gave above.

Missiles were satellites or were launching satellites??? I always thought rockets launches satellites. However, please explain the difference in a missile/rocket capable of delivering a satellite or nuclear warhead and an ICBM.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Missiles were satellites or were launching satellites??? I always thought rockets launches satellites. However, please explain the difference in a missile/rocket capable of delivering a satellite or nuclear warhead and an ICBM.

I think the list I had had an entire list of ‘launches’ both rockets and missles and I worded that paragraph wrong

Trump definately played a part but he wasn't the only part and credit must be given to all player's not just one and perhaps it will enable more positive diplomacy in the future which is more important then elevating one person.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Trump definately played a part but he wasn't the only part and credit must be given to all player's not just one and perhaps it will enable more positive diplomacy in the future which is more important then elevating one person.

I agree, it is more than one person that has brought this about but part of the credit has to go to Trump due to his stance on the missile tests.

I haven't said Trump shouldn't get some credit just not all of it this hasn't happened just because of Donald Trump.

[richard s]

I think China told their noisy neighbors who live below them to pack it in or else.