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Old 15-10-2021, 18:50   #31
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Re: Conservative MP Sir David Amess Murdered

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The murderer died as well?

RIP Sir David
no meant David Amess dying
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Re: Conservative MP Sir David Amess Murdered

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Seen this online, and totally agree.

It obviously hold for members any political party.
It’d be interesting to know if it actually happened or whether it’s an obvious deflection to the “other side”. Ironically, this is divisive rhetoric we could do without.
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Old 15-10-2021, 19:23   #33
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Re: Conservative MP Sir David Amess Murdered

BREAKING: Mark White of GBNews just announced it is believed the 25 year old arrested on suspicion of murder, is believed to be of Somalian origin and motivation of Terrorism still has not been ruled out.
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Re: Conservative MP Sir David Amess Murdered

More likely to have been radicalised by Abu Hamza than Angela Rayner.
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Old 15-10-2021, 20:23   #35
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He's just been murdered, and some individuals are trying to point score/make sarcastic comments against other political parties , or, against race/sexuality.

You know & I know what the motive is for these comments here, let's not pretend otherwise.
Where was that then?

And the comments about Language used by Rayner are absolutely relevant in this debate.
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Old 15-10-2021, 21:35   #36
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Where was that then?

And the comments about Language used by Rayner are absolutely relevant in this debate.
Might have been when someone posted
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A white maile Tory is murdered. I wonder if he'll get a candlelight vigil?
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Re: Conservative MP Sir David Amess Murdered

We should wait to see more details on the killer.

But more generally I think how we talk about politicians and each other matters. When people are called traitors, ****, evil and so on it dehumanises them and it makes the tone of discussion angrier, language matters. You throw enough fuel on the fire then violence can happen.
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We should wait to see more details on the killer.

But more generally I think how we talk about politicians and each other matters. When people are called traitors, ****, evil and so on it dehumanises them and it makes the tone of discussion angrier, language matters. You throw enough fuel on the fire then violence can happen.
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Fair enough, I did make that statement…….obviously sarcastically…….( no mention of sexuality).

But it’s a valid ….albeit sarcastic….point.

I have gone early, I agree, but I expect the level of public response ( mainly on social media, where unfortunately some idiots are celebrating the act ) to this murder to be less because the victim was 1. White, 2. Male, 3, a Conservative MP.

That’s just a fact nowadays.
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Re: Conservative MP Sir David Amess Murdered

FFS, stop trying to score points with each other.
The next person who trys to act like some self righteous angel will be removed from the topic, along with their posts.
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Re: Conservative MP Sir David Amess Murdered

Fatal stabbing of MP Sir David Amess confirmed as a terrorist incident

https://news.sky.com/story/fatal-sta...ident-12435051
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Re: Conservative MP Sir David Amess Murdered

There will be more incidents in the future we are on the same old merry go round. My thoughts and condolences go to the family and friends of Mr Amess.
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There will be more incidents in the future we are on the same old merry go round. My thoughts and condolences go to the family and friends of Mr Amess.
I think it’s important to not lose a sense of perspective in the immediate aftermath. Fortunately, attacks on MPs are extremely rare.
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Re: Conservative MP Sir David Amess Murdered

Attacks by a certain religion are depressingly common this time it's an MP but let's not pretend they are overly concerned about who is attacked and we know with certainty there will be future attacks.
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Re: Conservative MP Sir David Amess Murdered

So less access to our MPs can only be a poor outcome for democracy which is a troubling thought.
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