Labour Conference

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Taf

All I got was Waffler Starmer saying that all schoolkids will have to study music and learn an instrument.

Well we are apparently short of musicians , so he may have a point

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ge-occupations

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I heard that they want to bring back two weeks' work experience for children which Cameron had axed. This sounds like a good idea to me.

Is this what you're referring to.

7. Up to 2012, schools and colleges were obliged to ensure that all students undertook
“work-related learning” (usually interpreted as work experience placements) at Key Stage
4 (aged 14–16). This obligation was removed in 2012, as recommended in the Wolf Review
of Vocational Education.The Wolf Review also recommended that the Department for
Education should consider how older students, aged 16–19, could be better provided with
meaningful work experience. This would include those on academic pathways, such as
A-levels, as well as young people on vocational pathways such as apprenticeships which
must contain a practical element. In August 2013, implementing the Wolf Review, DfE
introduced a requirement for all 16–19 study programmes to include work experience

The requirement just moved to post-16.

I was lucky, decades ago I had a 3 week work experience job as a lab assistant. I doubt most of the possible work experience jobs are like that. I was the first one for that scheme to have a job like that.

There still schemes out there arranging such work experience, including the one that arranged mine. There just aren't going to be the sort of opportunities that kids are eager to do.



Every scheme that has tried to give young people some work experience has been criticised as being "slave labour".

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

Well we are apparently short of musicians , so he may have a point

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ge-occupations

Not quite sure how many skilled Orchestral musicians that or anything else, would produce.

Musicians – only skilled orchestral musicians who are leaders, principals, sub-principals or numbered string positions, and who meet the standard required by internationally recognised UK orchestras.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Taf

I was waiting for the weather report before 1am on BBC News.

It's going to rain tomorrow. Lots of rain. Hope that helps.

Guess you must used to it down there? It never rains in Swansea so my Welsh Dad used to say, move there? Not sure he always told the truth tbh ...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Well we are apparently short of musicians , so he may have a point

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ge-occupations

Yup, although the sentence wasn't just about music:

We want every child to get the chance to play competitive sport and play an instrument.

Also on education:

Reading, writing and arithmetic are the three pillars of any education. We would add a fourth which sadly doesn't begin with R. Digital skills.

Labour conference is one massive clown car, except the occupants seem to have no idea they’re in a circus and everyone’s laughing at them.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Every scheme that has tried to give young people some work experience has been criticised as being "slave labour".

Yes, I think it is slave labour.

I have never been on ‘work experience’. I went straight into my first job following an interview, and was then subject to a probationary period, but I got paid for it.

The Labour Party really is not helping anyone here. They want to see unpaid work experience and they keep tightening up on employment laws which deters employers from taking on inexperienced people as paid employees in case they are hopeless and then have to dismiss them, which is a right palaver these days.

Labour needs to get real and stop pandering to knee-jerk employer-hating advocates.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Every scheme that has tried to give young people some work experience has been criticised as being "slave labour"

I'm sure Jeremy Corbyn's bunch would call it that but if you can show a child a workplace and perhaps their parents have never worked then I think potentially you're doing the country a huge favour.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Labour conference is one massive clown car, except the occupants seem to have no idea they’re in a circus and everyone’s laughing at them.

I think it's a bit raw whereas others tend to be more stage-managed.

[nashville]

I want to get rid of the SNP in Scotland, So I have not much choice but to vote Labour or Liberal as the Tory will never win here,

Originally Posted by nashville

I want to get rid of the SNP in Scotland, So I have not much choice but to vote Labour or Liberal as the Tory will never win here,

It’s a bit tricky in the central belt isn’t it. Where I presently live the Tories always have a fighting chance (and have previously held the constituency) so I’ve never yet been faced with the prospect of tactical voting.

I’m likely to be moving house early next year and while it is presently proper SNP bandit country it is one of the seats previously held strongly by Labour. I might just have to hold my nose and vote for them, because the Nats have thoroughly Balkanised Scottish politics now. It’s all about nationalism and identity and nothing to do with policies. So you have to either vote for the Nat, or vote for the person most likely to unseat the Nat.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, I think it is slave labour.

It's education. These are schoolkids who don't get paid anyway.

My two weeks at the NCB were the highlight of my school year.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

It's education. These are schoolkids who don't get paid anyway.

My two weeks at the NCB were the highlight of my school year.

I think you'd need to be supping at Jeremy Corbyn's table to seriously think it's slave labour.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by nashville

I want to get rid of the SNP in Scotland, So I have not much choice but to vote Labour or Liberal as the Tory will never win here,

Nothing wrong with that.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

It’s a bit tricky in the central belt isn’t it. Where I presently live the Tories always have a fighting chance (and have previously held the constituency) so I’ve never yet been faced with the prospect of tactical voting.

I’m likely to be moving house early next year and while it is presently proper SNP bandit country it is one of the seats previously held strongly by Labour. I might just have to hold my nose and vote for them, because the Nats have thoroughly Balkanised Scottish politics now. It’s all about nationalism and identity and nothing to do with policies. So you have to either vote for the Nat, or vote for the person most likely to unseat the Nat.

If nobody wants one person to mean one equal vote in this country, then that's the way it is. We had the chance to move to PR but rejected it. Both of the main parties campaigned against it , and we voted as we were told, as usual. I'm sure you voted for PR at the time? That way you wouldn't have to contemplate voting for Labour, and you could be assured your vote counted.

Unless you are in one of the marginal constituencies, your vote means diddly squat. That's democracy, UK style.

[Pierre]

I see Starmer thinks the next James Bond should be a woman. Funny name for a woman…James.

Anyway, even funnier as Starmer doesn’t seem to know what a woman is.

I’m looking forward to watching “On Her Majesty’s Secret Cervix”

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I see Starmer thinks the next James Bond should be a woman. Funny name for a woman…James.

Anyway, even funnier as Starmer doesn’t seem to know what a woman is.

I’m looking forward to watching On Her Majesty’s Secret Cervix”

One of the best yet!