05-08-2008, 18:06
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Wildie
but they all on a summer break just like the kids are oh could they be one of the same
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no the school kids have more morals and respect for others
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05-08-2008, 18:33
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by gnilddif
Maybe they were getting worried that increasing numbers of BT customers were getting Webwise-wise
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Webwise-wise? Three "Ws" - WWW...
I like that Webwise has two "Ws".
If implemented, Webwise certainly takes something away from the internet as we know it.
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05-08-2008, 19:45
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Rob M
.....and on that note.....
I'm going to remind everybody that dragging problems encountered in one online forum into another online forum is generaly considered extremely bad Phorm.
If you have a problem with any other site then please take it up with the site's owners, don't bring those problems here.
Thank you.
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Totally agree with your comment although I would like to try and link a tiny bit of relevance to the previous discussion.
Once a system is put in place that removes peoples privacy, another step is to control what people see and do. The big brother effect of knowing all about another persons intimate life gives that big brother person, or the organisation, knowledge and power. The abuse of this power can and very often does lead to police state like control on peoples lives within that particular society.
Censorship prevails and is used willingly to protect the already corrupt.
Maybe some phormafied ISP's are showing the first signs of this particular mindset. The censorship of what people can say or do (legally) is not conducive to a free society. Perhaps the abuse of power has already begun ?
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05-08-2008, 20:45
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I suggest more people sign up to the BT thread right now, as I have a hunch they might go nuclear and start banning more people and stop new accounts being created.
It would be handy to have a couple of backup accounts ready.
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05-08-2008, 20:53
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by phormwatch
I suggest more people sign up to the BT thread right now, as I have a hunch they might go nuclear and start banning more people and stop new accounts being created.
It would be handy to have a couple of backup accounts ready.
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see if i get banned for my last post?
anyway back to topic
BT network seem strange at the moment, routes which have not changed for several weeks now seem on the move as though load balancing has been introduced, it used to be a single route, now you get one of three routes not sure if on a round robin basis or if route you get is based on traffic levels,
not sure if it is relevant but i will keep an eye on it
http, https and ping (ICMP) traffic all still follow same route so does not look like phorm is in yet
peter
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05-08-2008, 21:48
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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05-08-2008, 22:03
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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05-08-2008, 22:16
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Me too.
BT Business Support Forums : Webhost
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Originally Posted by Matt D
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Its hard to know at present.
If Phorm ever does launch, and uses the madcap technology described in Richard Claytons analysis, there is so much tampering & redirection going on I'm sure it won't be hard to detect with a rubber chicken, never mind a clever analysis package
You've got so many eyes looking at Phorm at the moment, even if they change the implementation model, it will get torn to shreds the moment its switched on
Once bitten, twice shy.
Pete.
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05-08-2008, 22:32
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Dephormation
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Ooohh.. very nice work, Pete!
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Bookmarked them on the nodpi wiki:
http://nodpi.wikispaces.com/Discussion
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You have a reply already, Pete - from an alleged BT employee, no less.
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05-08-2008, 22:35
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by phormwatch
You have a reply already, Pete - from an alleged BT employee, noless.
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Update, actually a very astute reply!
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05-08-2008, 22:41
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
It's a great reply.
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05-08-2008, 22:45
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Looks like the same forum has already had some 'feedback' from other customers.
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05-08-2008, 23:50
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Dephormation
Looks like the same forum has already had some 'feedback' from other customers.
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just added my two penneth there, see if steph bans me, only quoted facts about weblies and corrected a few statements by the mods over there, ooops is that a cat i see escaping from a bag, oh dear!!!!
peter
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