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Old 14-06-2018, 19:42   #16
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Re: Cold call with a threatening tone.

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Old 14-06-2018, 20:25   #17
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Re: Cold call with a threatening tone.

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If it is anyone genuinely needing to get in touch they simply have to send a text explaining who they are and the reason for calling. Even then I still have a choice of whether to talk to them or not
If it is from a landline? (Just curious here, though it seems a good idea - your policy that is).

I usually have someone screen my calls for me (like my EA) though that gets expensive. (Paying the EA is one thing but the list of chargable work goes through the roof).

I think with most latest phones (both software and hardware) you can block individual groups of numbers that you do not wish to receive messages from.

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If I recognise the number then I take the call. Otherwise they get to talk to the answerphone if I haven't blacklisted the number.
Yeah that is an option, too - let it go to voice mail / message bank etc...rather than the proposals, such as:

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IMO cold calling should be made a criminal offence on the company CEO that the call is being made for. A weeks jail for every call to run consecutively.

That'll put a stop to it.
Advocating that CEO's of companies go to jail.

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Ofcom needs to bloody well DO SOMETHING!!!
That is the kind of civil recourse (that is available) that I am talking about.

It is a sensible way forward that does not include the crazy "throw them in jail" approach.

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Ofcom takes a dim view of these sorts of calls and will happily receive a report.
Right...just a simple regulatory procedure. Takes a little effort and once you make your report most of the work is done by the regulator - this is what they are there for.
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Old 15-06-2018, 16:12   #18
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From the fact that I just received a call from Switzerland - to which I have never been and therefore there should not be anyone there who knows my number - I deduce that this problem is Europe-wide, if not global.

Ofcom and any "regulatory" bodies are clearly not enough. Refusing to answer such calls isn't a solution. The basic problem needs to be addressed:

HOW DO THESE PEOPLE OBTAIN OUR NUMBERS, HOW CAN THEY BE STOPPED FROM DOING SO, AND HOW CAN UK COMPANIES APPARENTLY IGNORE THE TELEPHONE PREFERENCE SERVICE WITH WHICH I'VE BEEN SIGNED UP SINCE I FIRST BOUGHT A MOBILE?!

THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!!!

Sprry for the rant, but I am really, really sick of this.
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Re: Cold call with a threatening tone.

On my phone I have an option to 'reject the call with a message'.

I've never used it, but interested to know how much I could get away with for the message content

To be perfectly honest, on rare occasions when I'm bored I will answer an unknown number and try to teach them some swear words . . that can be fun
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From the fact that I just received a call from Switzerland - to which I have never been and therefore there should not be anyone there who knows my number - I deduce that this problem is Europe-wide, if not global.
What was the call / did you know who was behind it in the end?

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Ofcom and any "regulatory" bodies are clearly not enough. Refusing to answer such calls isn't a solution. The basic problem needs to be addressed:

HOW DO THESE PEOPLE OBTAIN OUR NUMBERS, HOW CAN THEY BE STOPPED FROM DOING SO, AND HOW CAN UK COMPANIES APPARENTLY IGNORE THE TELEPHONE PREFERENCE SERVICE WITH WHICH I'VE BEEN SIGNED UP SINCE I FIRST BOUGHT A MOBILE?!
Again, this really would have to depend upon the call - did they know who you even are only they could just be punching numbers onto a phone.

They may also have the number if it has just been recycled / gone to you.

Was it an actual cold call. Also, they may not be from Switzerland, it may just be a spoof. (From a different area altogether).

Was the call just a cold call or did they actually say anything?
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Old 16-06-2018, 00:17   #21
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Re: Cold call with a threatening tone.

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From the fact that I just received a call from Switzerland - to which I have never been and therefore there should not be anyone there who knows my number - I deduce that this problem is Europe-wide, if not global.

Ofcom and any "regulatory" bodies are clearly not enough. Refusing to answer such calls isn't a solution. The basic problem needs to be addressed:

HOW DO THESE PEOPLE OBTAIN OUR NUMBERS, HOW CAN THEY BE STOPPED FROM DOING SO, AND HOW CAN UK COMPANIES APPARENTLY IGNORE THE TELEPHONE PREFERENCE SERVICE WITH WHICH I'VE BEEN SIGNED UP SINCE I FIRST BOUGHT A MOBILE?!

THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!!!
1. It is trivially simple to spoof a caller ID. If you don’t want to do it yourself there are ‘service’ providers online who will do it for you.
2. They don’t need your number; they can use a dialler to just go through every number until someone picks up.
3. If they are overseas, the TPS is irrelevant. Even within the U.K., the code of practice that governs TPS relates to sales calls, not ‘marketing’ or ‘research’.

I’m with BT and I use their call protect service, which has dramatically reduced the number of nuisance calls I get because BT know the numbers most commonly used by scammers and blocks them automatically. I also add numbers to my own block list if they are a call centre or a silent call, or one that hangs up on answer (often caused by a dialler that has managed to find more live numbers than there are agents available to take the calls).
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Re: Cold call with a threatening tone.

Well I got the same message again yesterday.

So I'm trying to see if I can copy it to a mp3 type file.

Speaking to my sister (works in legal profession) and she said try the police.

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Call from 08216947567 - nothing comes up on google

Tells me to call 01618182418 - scam?
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Re: Cold call with a threatening tone.

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Speaking to my sister (works in legal profession) and she said try the police.
You will be wasting their time, there is no crime to report here. Given that she works in / is in a legal profession she should not be giving you incorrect / inaccurate (bad) advice like that.

There is no good reason that you should be pestering the police with this, at all.
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You will be wasting their time, there is no crime to report here. Given that she works in / is in a legal profession she should not be giving you incorrect / inaccurate (bad) advice like that.

There is no good reason that you should be pestering the police with this, at all.
I spoke to my son about this who said that if Hom3r feels at all threatened then he was actually given the right legal advice but saying that he also said that the police will more than likely do nothing other than maybe give the advice to block this number.
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You will be wasting their time, there is no crime to report here. Given that she works in / is in a legal profession she should not be giving you incorrect / inaccurate (bad) advice like that.

There is no good reason that you should be pestering the police with this, at all.
If it was anything like the call my other half just had several laws were broken, the number was 0203 807 4579
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Re: Cold call with a threatening tone.

Laws that have appropriate regulatory resolutions. Civil violations are very different to criminal ones - difference between taking it to the cops and not.

If hom3r was personally threatened, that is one thing, but if this was commercial exploitation and he knew that there was zero actual unique threat to him, what crime do you propose that he reports?

Weenie, what does he report? The call...? The caller (who he doesn't know), the phone company...?

Even if a law is broken there is usually quite a lot of recourse for most things that have regulatory oversight, short of filing a criminal complaint / pressing charges.
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Laws that have appropriate regulatory resolutions. Civil violations are very different to criminal ones - difference between taking it to the cops and not.

If hom3r was personally threatened, that is one thing, but if this was commercial exploitation and he knew that there was zero actual unique threat to him, what crime do you propose that he reports?

Weenie, what does he report? The call...? The caller (who he doesn't know), the phone company...?

Even if a law is broken there is usually quite a lot of recourse for most things that have regulatory oversight, short of filing a criminal complaint / pressing charges.
It was trying to gain money with menace in the other halfs case, they told her that some one was coming round to remove goods today and that her bank account had been frozen but could they have the sort code and account number to transfer 3k out as part payment.

Imo all crime should be reported no matter how trivial or uninvestigatable they are as it's important they're in the figures, we don't want some poxy politician patting himself on the back for cutting police numbers and crime when all he's done is preside over people not reporting crime because at best all you'll get is a cad number for insurance purposes
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Re: Cold call with a threatening tone.

Oh I didn't mean to imply that it was trivial but in as much as you do not go to your local police station about SPAM emails why should you do it about calls?

They are a nuisance but your spouse and you, along with Hom3r seem to be clear that this is a nuisance call given your comments in this thread ; are you going to report it to the police as such only that would be the most honest description of the events.
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Weenie, what does he report? The call...? The caller (who he doesn't know), the phone company...?

Even if a law is broken there is usually quite a lot of recourse for most things that have regulatory oversight, short of filing a criminal complaint / pressing charges.
Chloé I totally appreciate what you are saying but if someone feels threatened then who do you suggest they report this to?

All I was stating that according to my son Hom3rs sister gave him the right advice if he felt threatened in any way.
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