Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
15-08-2021, 11:35
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
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"deteriorating situation"
it's a total balls up.
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15-08-2021, 11:37
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
Well I do not see how they can go back in now. 20 years and many lives wasted. 3 months and the Taliban are on the edge of talking over the country again. Dunno what they thought was going to happen tbh
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15-08-2021, 11:55
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
Now, it might just be me, but I can’t see the taliban suddenly listening to what the U.K. government says.
Hundreds of U.K. combat forces life’s lost over the past twenty years,
and ultimately for what ?
A cataclysmic, shambolic foreign policy failure by the U.K. the US and all other NATO forces
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15-08-2021, 12:27
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
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Originally Posted by Andrew Neil @afneil
Biden’s strategy to end 20-year US involvement in Afghanistan — leaving Afghan forces to hold off Taliban for months as negotiators try to hammer out a peace deal — is in shreds. Also in Feb he promised to consult US allies. But the cut and run in Afghan was a US fait accompli.
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Biden’s desertion of Afghanistan will be his Vietnam - a self-inflicted wound of disastrous proportions. Incredible, and utterly shameful, that the most ‘woke’ US President in history has left millions of women to the merciless murderous clutches of the world’s worst misogynists.
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Troop withdrawal was initially a President Trump decision. However, Biden is the President now, this is on his watch, he reversed many of Trump’s policies on day one, he could have done same here. But collectively, this is a joint NATO disaster, that the world has sleepwalked in to.
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15-08-2021, 12:36
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
Not sure what Parliament can do next week as by the Taliban will have captured the country by then. I guess it will just be about how many refugees we can take in.
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15-08-2021, 12:46
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
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Not sure what Parliament can do next week as by the Taliban will have captured the country by then. I guess it will just be about how many refugees we can take in.
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I’m going to guess not many. Ultimately the burden will fall on Iran, we will keep sanctions on them and be completely unsurprised when these people and their children grow up to hate us.
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15-08-2021, 12:48
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
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Originally Posted by Mick
Troop withdrawal was initially a President Trump decision. However, Biden is the President now, this is on his watch, he reversed many of Trump’s policies on day one, he could have done same here. But collectively, this is a joint NATO disaster, that the world has sleepwalked in to.
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I for one was not sleepwalking. It was always obviously going to happen
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15-08-2021, 12:51
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
The peace agreement was made effectively giving the Taliban the right to take over peacefully, after a withdrawal of coalition military, providing they prevented groups like Al-Qaeda from operating on Afghan soil.
But such groups just operate from Pakistan with the blessing of the Pakistani Secret Service.
Democracy there is now dead, and cooperation with the West is unlikely ever again, especially as the Taliban are in talks with China.
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15-08-2021, 12:52
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
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I’m going to guess not many. Ultimately the burden will fall on Iran, and we will keep sanctions on them and be completely unsurprised when these people and their children grow up to hate us.
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The West made the Taliban anyway just because we did not want the Russians to have a foothold in the region. Same thing happened when the West supported Iraq against Iran
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15-08-2021, 12:59
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
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Originally Posted by Mick
Troop withdrawal was initially a President Trump decision. However, Biden is the President now, this is on his watch, he reversed many of Trump’s policies on day one, he could have done same here. But collectively, this is a joint NATO disaster, that the world has sleepwalked in to.
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Agree on that with one addition and one correction.
1) Biden wasn’t involved in secret talks with the taliban
2j As others have said, blatantly obvious what was going to happen/is happening
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15-08-2021, 13:16
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
It’s those Afghans who worked with us against the Taliban I feel sorry for. We should not have left them behind. They are now doomed.
What a way to behave. I hope the US and UK governments don’t expect any help from the native population when invading any country in the future. I am ashamed that we have abandoned them to their fate.
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15-08-2021, 14:22
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
BREAKING: Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has fled to Dushambe, Tajik media reports
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15-08-2021, 15:04
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
When the consequences of leaving were so obvious and brutal to people who've gotten used to the rights you encouraged them to make use of then you simply can't just abandon them. This is terrible.
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15-08-2021, 16:18
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Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
LATEST: Prime Minister Boris Johnson is chairing an emergency Cobra meeting to discuss the rapidly deteriorating situation in Afghanistan, Downing Street source confirms.
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