Corbyn's kerfuffle

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

PM’s Questions on Wednesday should be amusing.

Agreed - will be a bit awks for BoJo not being tipped-off about the assasination of Qasim Soleimani.

[Julian]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Agreed - will be a bit awks for BoJo not being tipped-off about the assasination of Qasim Soleimani.

Not sure why it will be 'awks'

Was anyone else told?

Did anyone else need to be told?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Julian

Not sure why it will be 'awks'

Was anyone else told?

Did anyone else need to be told?

Well, even some of his supporting media acknowledge the situation.

Take this from the Mail, for example:

"Tomorrow, Boris Johnson will fly back to the UK from his holiday in Mustique after facing criticism for his silence and will walk into a growing row with the US after Britain was left in the dark about the attack."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Originally Posted by Julian

Not sure why it will be 'awks'

Was anyone else told?

Did anyone else need to be told?

Because of the rising tension it caused in the Gulf region, and the impact on UK interests and assets, and the danger to British shipping in the Straits of Hormuz?

I do wonder if it's a case of him not being 'officially' told but the British knowing in advance that if the U.S had the chance they would take it. I think it's better for him that, whatever the truth of the matter is, he can say he was not told in advance. It reduces our complicity and gives us more options in dealing with Iran than we otherwise would have.

Let's not forget that Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe is still in an Iranian prison and if we were viewed by Iran to have participated in this attack then she might have the consequences for that. Although again I wonder how much Iran will believe that this was nothing to do with us....

[Sephiroth]

Iran is a pariah state. Hizbollah loving Corbyn would disagree with that.
I would have shed no tears if had been in the General's car when the missile struck.

[Pierre]

Labour leadership: Jeremy Corbyn 'would consider shadow cabinet role' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51576706

Oh please yes.

Just to confirm Labour wish to remain out of power for the foreseeable future.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Labour leadership: Jeremy Corbyn 'would consider shadow cabinet role' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51576706

Oh please yes.

Just to confirm Labour wish to remain out of power for the foreseeable future.

Think Jezza is going to be out of luck. A genuine bloke, who never changed his principles, unlike some when they get into leadership. But he wasn't electable.

Ed Miliband might be back though, who like any Labour leader, was unjustly vilified by the usual right wing media suspects (based on mostly what he looked like, how shallow we are...... )

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Think Jezza is going to be out of luck. A genuine bloke, who never changed his principles, unlike some when they get into leadership. But he wasn't electable.

Ed Miliband might be back though, who like any Labour leader, was unjustly vilified by the usual right wing media suspects (based on mostly what he looked like, how shallow we are...... )

You mean an antisemitic fan of Hizbollah, Hamas, IRA and so on. You're right for once.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

A genuine bloke, who never changed his principles, unlike some when they get into leadership. But he wasn't electable

In the words of Dr Ian Malcolm.

he isn't some nice sweet guy that was obliterated by the media or the Building of a anti-socialist narrative. Marxist Corbyn had his shot and the electorate selected him for extinction!

He was a genuine threat to our way of life precisely because he never abandoned his Marxist principles despite ample evidence, from all over the world, that such principles starve and kill the very people they’re supposedly intended to benefit. He’s a walking fossil. A relic of a period in the 20th century that, thankfully, very few people want back.

[heero_yuy]

Quote from The Sun:

The Labour Party is facing “one of its worst” results in the upcoming local elections, according to an internal report.

Months after the worst general election result since 1935, the party is set to lose strong hold councils like Sheffield, Plymouth and Harlow in vote simulations done internally.

The document warns the party is facing “one of our worst local election performances in recent history” in the vote next May.

The incoming Labour leader will have less than a month to reverse the predictions, with the memo bracing the loss of many “hard-working councillors.”

In one simulation the party could lose 418 councillors.

The report states: “Based on the 2019 General Election and the subsequent ‘bounce’ in the polls for the Tories, we fully expect to lose hard-working councillors and lose control of some councils.”

It adds: “Our predictive modelling points to substantial losses that may constitute one of our worst Local Election performances in recent history.”

The piece on the link above does say that a new leader may reduce the damage.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

The piece on the link above does say that a new leader may reduce the damage.

Depends on who the new leader is.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

The piece on the link above does say that a new leader may reduce the damage.

I doubt it, with the choice that's there.

It does seem, if the polls are right, that Labour are going to go for Keir Starmer which would be an improvement.