President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

Originally Posted by Mick

Yes A judge would, if he was Anti-Trump. We’ve seen it before, Judges in Democrat heavy districts blocking his travel ban, when he has the Constitutional Authority to do so, is why the Supreme Court overruled that injunction and allowed parts of his Executive Order to stand, pending further hearing(s).

New definition of biased against Trump - most of the people below would have been involved/notified of the warrant happening.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is a Republican.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions is a Republican.

Deputy Attorney General Rob Rosenstein is a Republican.

The current Director of the FBI Christopher Wray is a Republican

The NY South Attorney General is a Republican, Geoffrey Berman, who Trump interviewed and nominated - not only is he a Republican, but he donated to the Trump campaign and Trump appointed him to his current office. It doesn't matter if a Judge signed it off the warrant, Berman is the guy who signed off on the FBI raid on Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, yesterday.

You would think if it was a witch hunt, some of the witch-hunters in this case would be Democrat...

Also, according to the American Bar Association, conversations between attorney and client when there is reason to suspect both are involved in an ongoing criminal activity are NOT actually protected by law and are subject to investigation. It's called the Crime-Fraud Exception, which says: The legal community does not deem discussions concerning future wrongdoings, such as fraud, that occur during an attorney-client communications worthy of protection. While the practice of law encourages full and frank communications between the attorney and client, ONLY communications concerning past wrongdoings are protected.

I'll stick to it being a witch hunt thanks.

I will say to you Hugh, what I said to Damien, you can be a Republican but not necessarily support the President, there are Republicans out there totally against the President, Senator John McCain being a prime example.

As for the witch hunt, we've gone from the 'Russian Collusion' narrative, long investigation, they found none, so instead of wrapping up, they are now on a fishing expedition, because Mueller still has a target. This sorry arse show needs to be shut down, it's now just a political shit show.

Originally Posted by Mick

I'll stick to it being a witch hunt thanks.

I will say to you Hugh, what I said to Damien, you can be a Republican but not necessarily support the President, there are Republicans out there totally against the President, Senator John McCain being a prime example.
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But these were appointees of Trump. The Attorney who sought the warrant was even someone who donated to Trump's campaign.

It can't be that everyone who investigates or poses a challenge to Trump is dishonest or partisan. It's remarkable if it were true. If you extend a fraction of the sketism you have over the motives of those investigating Trump to that of Trump and his allies is it so hard to believe there might be some wrongdoing? You don't have an issue with believing the Democrats are corrupt, they aren't that different to Republicans.

As for the witch hunt, we've gone from the 'Russian Collusion' narrative, long investigation, they found none, so instead of wrapping up, they are now on a fishing expedition, because Mueller still has a target. This sorry arse show needs to be shut down, it's now just a political shit show.

This is now a separate track to the Mueller investigation. So even if he fires Mueller this investigation would continue. Mueller did what he was meant to do and pass it on elsewhere.

Maybe Trump can fire the people in the NY Attorney's office too and then fire anyone who investigates his allies further but the US has checks and balances, you can't keep firing everyone who investigates the President.

NEW DETAILS this from CNN: The FBI search warrant requested documents about Michael Cohen's ownership of taxi medallions in NY, sources tell CNN's @PamelaBrownCNN and @GloriaBorger. (The warrant also asked for info on Stormy Daniels and mentioned election laws.)

I cannot stop laughing..... this is hilarious, the raid was about taxi medallions LMFAO.....

See, not everything is a conspiracy against Trump

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(Although we have to wait and see what other documents involving the women means I guess)

Paul Ryan, Republican Speaker of the House (and 2nd in succession line for Presidency), has announced he will retire at the mid-term elections to spend more time with his children.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/u...n-speaker.html

Get Ted Cruz as speaker, he was fantastic against Mark Zuckerberg last night, criticizing him regarding Facebook censoring Conservative groups and opinions. Facebook branded, Black Trump supporters, Diamond and Silk as a "danger" to the community and banned them.

He's a Senator, the Speaker is in the House of Representatives - people tend to move from the House to the Senate.

I know, I was just saying he would make a great Speaker.

Originally Posted by Mick

I know, I was just saying he would make a great Speaker.

Well, considering Zuckerberg was called before the Committees to be questioned on the data controversy involving Cambridge Analytica, I wonder if the reason Cruz didn’t ask any question on this subject was because the "Cruz for President” campaign used Cambridge Analytica extensively, having spent $5.8 million between July 2015 and June 2016 with the company.

Obama used similar practices in his re-election campaign on the 2012-2013 Ticket, as well and was praised for his "tech genius" for doing so.

But now Trump/Cruz used to it in their election campaigns, it's suddenly a 'huge problem.' How convenient.

Originally Posted by Mick

Obama used similar practices in his re-election campaign on the 2012-2013 Ticket, as well and was praised for his "tech genius" for doing so.

But now Trump/Cruz used to it in their election campaigns, it's suddenly a 'huge problem.' How convenient.

I posted on this a while ago. This is Facebook story is a nonsense. I really do not think journalists understand it properly.

First of all campaigning via social media utilising people's social connections and tailoring the message to different demographics is not new as you say. The coverage of this story keeps making it out to be some sort of advanced algorithm with CIA-style brainwashing ability. It's a bunch of stupid memes. It's not new.

If it was so advanced how much Cruz lost?

The one thing I would say is that the 'scandal' isn't the same as Obama's techniques. The key difference being Obama's campaign was clear what is was going, you had to opt-in and they didn't scrape data without permission.

Also Facebook did not sell this data. It was obtained via a third-party application who then gave it to CA. This is where there are questions to an answered. But in the end this is old data that people. had uploaded to Facebook, hardly searing insight.

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Originally Posted by Damien

But these were appointees of Trump. The Attorney who sought the warrant was even someone who donated to Trump's campaign.

It can't be that everyone who investigates or poses a challenge to Trump is dishonest or partisan. It's remarkable if it were true. If you extend a fraction of the sketism you have over the motives of those investigating Trump to that of Trump and his allies is it so hard to believe there might be some wrongdoing? You don't have an issue with believing the Democrats are corrupt, they aren't that different to Republicans.

This is now a separate track to the Mueller investigation. So even if he fires Mueller this investigation would continue. Mueller did what he was meant to do and pass it on elsewhere.

Maybe Trump can fire the people in the NY Attorney's office too and then fire anyone who investigates his allies further but the US has checks and balances, you can't keep firing everyone who investigates the President.

It seems that it is Rosenstein and not Mueller who is on Trump's list to be fired.
Mr Rozenshtein, a visiting assistant professor at the University of Minnesota Law School points out that "There is a certain logic for Trump to fire Rosenstein but not fire Mueller on the theory that acting gradually to hamstring the investigation is going to be politically much less problematic than acting really abruptly" said Mr Rozenshtein, a visiting assistant professor at the University of Minnesota Law School. Mr Trump could then attempt to install “a less independent, more pliant” deputy attorney-general in his place, he added.
https://www.ft.com/content/7c003426-...9-de94fa33a81e

Well, at the moment Devin Nunes is moving to apply a "Contempt of Congress" levy and a move to Impeach Rosenstein and Wray for ignoring congressional requests for FISA documentations surrounding Carter Page and the spying on him and Trump associates and potentially Trump himself. They requested the documentation over 6 months ago and the deadline passed last week.

Originally Posted by Mick

Well, at the moment Devin Nunes is moving to apply a "Contempt of Congress" levy and a move to Impeach Rosenstein and Wray for ignoring congressional requests for FISA documentations surrounding Carter Page and the spying on him and Trump associates and potentially Trump himself. They requested the documentation over 6 months ago and the deadline passed last week.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...enstein-514518

It seems it would need the support of the leadership before a vote could take place.