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Old 16-12-2021, 10:34   #1021
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

reasoned is not always the same as reasonable

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Not as much as one certain poster on here who is know for being Really Chronic for such behaviour.

As a side note they’re also well known for it on Digital Spy - I know one of the mods and this person is a often a thorn in the side for testing the patience of their team by posting the same kind of thing regularly.
yeah I understand but it only becomes a problem because the individual allows to it get to them. As I said it can just be ignored or with a little humility accepted.
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reasoned is not always the same as reasonable
Very true, but can easily/equally apply to either of both sides of a discussion. Something often missed when doling out the threats of legal action etc.
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reasoned is not always the same as reasonable

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yeah I understand but it only becomes a problem because the individual allows to it get to them. As I said it can just be ignored or with a little humility accepted.
It's also a reasonable reply.
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Old 16-12-2021, 10:41   #1024
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yeah I understand but it only becomes a problem because the individual allows to it get to them. As I said it can just be ignored or with a little humility accepted.
It becomes a problem when the poster posts provocative comments then threatens legal action (laughable) when anyone disagrees with them in any way.
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Very true, but can easily/equally apply to either of both sides of a discussion. Something often missed when doling out the threats of legal action etc.
oh most definitely. I think the issues most desperately to get addressed though are those that cause real harm. I think those subjected should be kindly encouraged to report it to the site owners and the site owners obligated to investigate and where serious offences committed pass information forward.

When teenaged and push so far they feel so desperate they kill themselves then I am sure everyone on this forum agrees something needs to be done

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It becomes a problem when the poster posts provocative comments then threatens legal action (laughable) when anyone disagrees with them in any way.
and you by posting this are targeting them. 2 wrongs do not make a right

This topic is a huge and important one yet no matter who is to blame it has turned into an Arthur is wrong everyone else is right thread

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It's also a reasonable reply.
in your opinion

By belittling my opinion by calling it laughable I therefore disagree with your opinion that it was reasonable
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and you by posting this are targeting them. 2 wrongs do not make a right
So pointing out someone’s antisocial behaviour and silly threats of legal bullying is “targeting them”?

Have I got that right?
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Old 16-12-2021, 11:02   #1027
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oh most definitely. I think the issues most desperately to get addressed though are those that cause real harm. I think those subjected should be kindly encouraged to report it to the site owners and the site owners obligated to investigate and where serious offences committed pass information forward.

When teenaged and push so far they feel so desperate they kill themselves then I am sure everyone on this forum agrees something needs to be done

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and you by posting this are targeting them. 2 wrongs do not make a right

This topic is a huge and important one yet no matter who is to blame it has turned into an Arthur is wrong everyone else is right thread

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in your opinion

By belittling my opinion by calling it laughable I therefore disagree with your opinion that it was reasonable
Which is fine, until people try and take that opinion away from you.
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So pointing out someone’s antisocial behaviour and silly threats of legal bullying is “targeting them”?

Have I got that right?
yes pretty much.

If you were in Tesco and someone with Tourette's starting swearing at you saying obscene things would that be antisocial behaviour or a symptom of their disability ?
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yes pretty much.

If you were in Tesco and someone with Tourette's starting swearing at you saying obscene things would that be antisocial behaviour or a symptom of their disability ?
How would I know they had Tourette’s?

How would I know for certain that they’re not just milking it as an excuse? Genuine questions.
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How would I know they had Tourette’s?

How would I know for certain that they’re not just milking it as an excuse? Genuine questions.
As far as I am aware those with Tourette’s exibit a visible tick when they are having an episode

You are not to know but if you were to know the person had a disability one would make allowances knowing they have the issue

Say for example a close relative of yours who you know suffers from severe anxiety. You invited them to your birthday party and they said they were coming. Then on the day they did not show up. Would you see it as a slight or call them and make sure they are ok? The difference being you would have some form of understanding of the persons issues.
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As far as I am aware those with Tourette’s exibit a visible tick when they are having an episode
And you don’t think such a ‘tick’ can be copied by anyone?

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You are not to know but if you were to know the person had a disability one would make allowances knowing they have the issue
If I knew someone had such a disability, you’re right, I would make allowances.

But nobody on CF knows if anyone else has a disability for certain.

But either way, disability or not, I will not stand by and allow legal threats to go unanswered.

Let me tell you something. I’ve been part of this forum for 18 years (not so much the last 5 or so as I’ve been side tracked) and in all that time I can assure you that a grand total of zero people have accused me of bullying anyone.

If I had then I’m sure the mods/admins would have a chat with me.

No such chat has ever taken place.

I’m not bullying or targeting anyone unless it can be proven they have a “disability” or whatever as you say.

My inbox is open to any such evidence if anybody feels inclined to send it.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

What if your partner or wife (or someone on social media) posts a photo of themselves and asks if their arse look big and God forbid you give an honest answer of 'yeah it does, it's huge' and they don't like the answer is that being abusive or reasonable?

It applies to everything when it comes to social media, if you put yourself out there then expect negative comments, if you don't like it, don't put yourself in that position. Same applies to certain people on here.
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And you don’t think such a ‘tick’ can be copied by anyone?



If I knew someone had such a disability, you’re right, I would make allowances.

But nobody on CF knows if anyone else has a disability for certain.

But either way, disability or not, I will not stand by and allow legal threats to go unanswered.

Let me tell you something. I’ve been part of this forum for 18 years (not so much the last 5 or so as I’ve been side tracked) and in all that time I can assure you that a grand total of zero people have accused me of bullying anyone.

If I had then I’m sure the mods/admins would have a chat with me.

No such chat has ever taken place.

I’m not bullying or targeting anyone unless it can be proven they have a “disability” or whatever as you say.

My inbox is open to any such evidence if anybody feels inclined to send it.

Well I for one would give the benefit of doubt. I understand peoples frustration. Even a mother sometimes gets frustrated with a crying baby, but she still carries love and kindness in her heart.

I try to carry love and kindness in mine. But same as everyone else get things wrong sometimes.
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Well I for one would give the benefit of doubt. I understand peoples frustration. Even a mother sometimes gets frustrated with a crying baby, but she still carries love and kindness in her heart.

I try to carry love and kindness in mine. But same as everyone else get things wrong sometimes.
Such innocence is rarely found these days. It’s almost quaint.
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Such innocence is rarely found these days. It’s almost quaint.
I am not innocent, I have done and seen terrible things. But I have grown and changed
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