VOD : Netflix/Streaming Services

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Well, you can easily stop your subscription..

So you don't think its too dear then MM?.

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by Stephen

I am certainly not bashing Netflix. I am being realistic. I have been a subscriber for 4 years but am fed up of how quickly the price has risen and that other new streamers are much cheaper and include 4k without having 3 tiers.

These new streamers are cheaper for now, you can be certain their price rises are coming.

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Originally Posted by denphone

So you don't think its too dear then MM?.

Still a lot cheaper than a SKY tv sub or Virgin tv sub.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

These new streamers are cheaper for now, you can be certain their price rises are coming.

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Still a lot cheaper than a SKY tv sub or Virgin tv sub.

While true - they aren't genuinely competing with Sky or Virgin though at those price points - they're competing against the increasing number of sub-£10 a month streaming services.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

Still a lot cheaper than a SKY tv sub or Virgin tv sub.

Quite a few have one or two streaming add ons on top of their SKY tv sub and Virgin tv subs.

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by denphone

Quite a few have one or two streaming add ons on top of their SKY tv sub and Virgin tv subs.

I used to myself before cutting the cord.

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Originally Posted by jfman

While true - they aren't genuinely competing with Sky or Virgin though at those price points - they're competing against the increasing number of sub-£10 a month streaming services.

Very good point.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Well, you can easily stop your subscription..

Currently I don't plan on cancelling. I like some of the content.

I can stay subscribed and not be happy with the pricing. When I started it was only 5.99 a month. It's not up to 8.99 which is getting silly.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by denphone

So you don't think its too dear then MM?.

I never said it wasn't, Den, I was merely pointing out that if he or anyone else for that matter is unhappy over the price that they pay, then they can stop paying it whenever they want, there's no contract with Netflix.

Originally Posted by jfman

While true - they aren't genuinely competing with Sky or Virgin though at those price points - they're competing against the increasing number of sub-£10 a month streaming services.

Arguably they’re providing a service to the very viewers who have always resisted multi-channel TV because they never understood what was so intrinsically wonderful about having access to 200 channels when they never intended even to glimpse at 90% of them.

I’m in this category - back in the day I had NTL mostly for the broadband but also because our house never had a terrestrial aerial and it was in the days when it was the easiest way to get access to all the BBC’s digital output; I then had sky because we moved to an area with very poor terrestrial signal and subscribing to a sky dish was the only effective way of getting any tv at all (pre-Freesat). We cancelled our tv subscriptions years ago and these days have Prime Video (though initially that was for Prime parcel delivery benefits rather than tv) and Netflix, because for a household with kids of various ages there is a far higher concentration of watchable programming on that platform. We get far more with two streaming subscriptions than we ever did out of either a Sky or NTL subscription, and at a far lower price.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Chris

Arguably they’re providing a service to the very viewers who have always resisted multi-channel TV because they never understood what was so intrinsically wonderful about having access to 200 channels when they never intended even to glimpse at 90% of them.

I’m in this category - back in the day I had NTL mostly for the broadband but also because our house never had a terrestrial aerial and it was in the days when it was the easiest way to get access to all the BBC’s digital output; I then had sky because we moved to an area with very poor terrestrial signal and subscribing to a sky dish was the only effective way of getting any tv at all (pre-Freesat). We cancelled our tv subscriptions years ago and these days have Prime Video (though initially that was for Prime parcel delivery benefits rather than tv) and Netflix, because for a household with kids of various ages there is a far higher concentration of watchable programming on that platform. We get far more with two streaming subscriptions than we ever did out of either a Sky or NTL subscription, and at a far lower price.

Excellent point well made.

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Off the subject, slightly, my Now TV sub was due to finish on 14th January this year, I was paying £3.49 per month for the entertainment pass which gives you all the good stuff on Atlantic, I got notification that from 14th January it would then be £8.99, so I decided to go down the cancel route, but, they gave me an offer I couldn't refuse, which is £1.69 per month for the next three months, not bad eh...

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Excellent point well made.

However the Sky/Virgin subscriber numbers appear to place him in the minority. Far more people have streaming services in addition to Sky/Virgin, myself included, than have abandoned them. This will remain the case until (and I suppose “if”) major sports rights end up on streamers. Which is why I made the point about the real streaming competition between themselves. Either for those who don’t (and have never wanted) Sky/Virgin due to cost or for what services Sky/Virgin customers add on.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Excellent point well made.

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Off the subject, slightly, my Now TV sub was due to finish on 14th January this year, I was paying £3.49 per month for the entertainment pass which gives you all the good stuff on Atlantic, I got notification that from 14th January it would then be £8.99, so I decided to go down the cancel route, but, they gave me an offer I couldn't refuse, which is £1.69 per month for the next three months, not bad eh...

That must be the same offer they made to us.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by denphone

That must be the same offer they made to us.

It's a really good deal, Den...

[Legendkiller2k]

Taken from dspy.

Content budgets in 2020:

Netflix $18.5 billion
Amazon $8.5 billion
Apple TV+ $6 billion
Hulu $4.5 billion
Disney+ $2.5 billion
HBO Max $2 billion
Peacock $1.5 billion
Quibi $1 billion
CBS All Access $1 billion

So Disney is leaning very heavily on its back catalogue, Apple is leaning on its brand, Amazon is leaning on its broader Prime member benefits and Netflix is the only one making very serious efforts to build up a library of new, exclusive material. At quite a cost, though.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

It's a really good deal, Den...

There is no doubt about that as they need us more then we need them MM.

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

Taken from dspy.

Content budgets in 2020:

Netflix $18.5 billion
Amazon $8.5 billion
Apple TV+ $6 billion
Hulu $4.5 billion
Disney+ $2.5 billion
HBO Max $2 billion
Peacock $1.5 billion
Quibi $1 billion
CBS All Access $1 billion

You could look at that and in terms of monetary budgets being spent its no contest but as the previous market history has told us it does not work out like that sometimes.

Netflix might seem all powerful but the demise of Blockbuster in this sector is a clear reminder on how quickly that the market can change.

Personally and its only my opinion Amazon and Disney are best place going forward and possibly Netflix in the end being bought by Apple which would give them a significant foothold into this market.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/431...sink-this-ship

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/jp-m...y-netflix.html