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Old 17-05-2020, 21:25   #16
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

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Good to know you have nothing against assertive Lycra clad sensible cyclists
As soon as you put on Lycra you've lost the argument.
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As soon as you put on Lycra you've lost the argument.
And your dignity...
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

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As per the thread title.

Out in their hordes trying to own the roads here.

Returning from where? Cycling was always a lockdown exercise option.
Cyclists could become less of an irritation for you in future because you may soon not be able to drive where they ride

As Taf says, adjustments have already begun.
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Old 18-05-2020, 08:52   #19
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Returning from where? Cycling was always a lockdown exercise option.
Cyclists could become less of an irritation for you in future because you may soon not be able to drive where they ride

As Taf says, adjustments have already begun.
I'm slightly comforted by the likelihood of this being a temporary scourge for a couple of reasons.

In the short run, as CV recedes, the move back to public transport will gain pace.

In the longer run, pollution free cars will be introduced.

My guiding principle here is that we are in the 21st century and going back to bikes and horses is not a valid option.

As to my irritation, I suppose I can't really complain at commuting cyclists in this free country. It's the Lycra Brigade out on non-working days who have gained in their boldness to make things as awkward as possible for car drivers (who pay for road usage). In my area, the country roads are obviously not being narrowed and its those roads that this scourge infests from my perspective.


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Old 18-05-2020, 09:41   #20
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Returning from where? Cycling was always a lockdown exercise option.
Cyclists could become less of an irritation for you in future because you may soon not be able to drive where they ride

As Taf says, adjustments have already begun.
Bullbars/ nudge bars that's the answer.
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Old 18-05-2020, 09:47   #21
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

I love it when I'm out on my bike and rectum-necks tell me I need to get off the road because I "don't pay tax or insurance".

Right, so what is it I do to legally keep my car on the road then?

(for the record I have bike insurance)
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I love it when I'm out on my bike and rectum-necks tell me I need to get off the road because I "don't pay tax or insurance".

Right, so what is it I do to legally keep my car on the road then?

(for the record I have bike insurance)
I have no issue with cyclists generally.......

However, I do believe that there should be a licencing regime or something, if they are using the “roads” as some show no road sense whatsoever, such as looking behind you before you pull out or join traffic.

You need a different licence for a motorbike because you have to approach things differently to a car and it the same for a bike.

Also think about you clothing more, I know it has to be light and flexible, but live at the bottom of a hill on a rural road and the speed they reach as they go past my house, on skinny tyres, if they came off or Hit something - well it Would probably be the last thing they did.
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Old 18-05-2020, 10:09   #23
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

The problem I see with some kind of licensing system is how it would affect kids. Would there be a minimum age to cycle? How would that be administered? Would kids therefore only be allowed to cycle with an adult (to deal with any licence enquiries etc)? Plus many other questions.

I’d be in favour of having some kind of licence but I think it would just be too difficult and awkward to manage.

As for clothing, I use my bike for mountain biking and am usually kitted out accordingly so if I’m on a road on the way to a route and come off or whatever I’ll have a degree of protection.
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Old 18-05-2020, 10:20   #24
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

It's the packs that cause issues, they are the size of a car and down hill they get the speed of a car but uphill that's more like the speed of a very old tractor. But unlike many tractor drivers they don't pull to the side to let faster traffic through.
And when they do have accidents they are more likely to need hospital care than those in a nice safe metal box for the same speed/situation.
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It's the packs that cause issues, they are the size of a car and down hill they get the speed of a car but uphill that's more like the speed of a very old tractor. But unlike many tractor drivers they don't pull to the side to let faster traffic through.
And when they do have accidents they are more likely to need hospital care than those in a nice safe metal box for the same speed/situation.
They just don't seem aware of the danger of getting in the way of an impatient motorist.
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They just don't seem aware of the danger of getting in the way of an impatient motorist.
As you might imagine, I'm not concerned with cyclists' safety at the hands of an impatient motorist (which I'm not - just irritated). Cyclists have considered the risks of impatient motorists, I'm sure.

I'm only concerned with their (most) behaviour on the road intended to wave two fingers to the delayed motorist.


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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

Cyclists aren’t the problem, drivers aren’t the problem. HUMANS are the problem.
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As you might imagine, I'm not concerned with cyclists' safety at the hands of an impatient motorist (which I'm not - just irritated). Cyclists have considered the risks of impatient motorists, I'm sure.

I'm only concerned with their (most) behaviour on the road intended to wave two fingers to the delayed motorist.


I see the roads are returning to normal. Shame as people were being so nice to each other too !
Btw , is this a news story? (I didn't see a link), or just another generic have a go at cyclists thread? I do both, and there are plonkers behind 4 wheels and 2 wheels, but the 4 wheeled ones have potential to do more damage. Some have used the lockdown as an excuse to speed through urban areas, hope the fines/points are double atm.
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It's the Lycra Brigade out on non-working days who have gained in their boldness to make things as awkward as possible for car drivers (who pay for road usage).
Road maintenance is paid for by general taxation so we all contribute. Road tax is a misnomer; it is an emissions tax for motor vehicles and therefore does not apply to cyclists. Cue the farting jokes....
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The problem I see with some kind of licensing system is how it would affect kids. Would there be a minimum age to cycle?
If they are going to cycle "on the road" and "unaccompanied" I would say 12 minimum.

I think it is madness that at the moment any child of any age is allowed to ride on the road without any training or any supervision.

It they are supervised and accompanied by an adult then that's OK.

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How would that be administered? Would kids therefore only be allowed to cycle with an adult (to deal with any licence enquiries etc)? Plus many other questions.

I’d be in favour of having some kind of licence but I think it would just be too difficult and awkward to manage.
I agree there would difficulties but I think something needs to be done.
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