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OLD BOY · 26-12-2019, 20:12

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

Disney pulls shows from Sky as it prepares for UK streaming debut

Disney + will launch in UK and Ireland on March 31st 2020.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...treaming-debut

As was expected!

pip08456 · 26-12-2019, 20:26

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

As was expected!

Quite. In fact Disney hasn't pulled anything, it just hasn't renewed licenses.

Chad · 26-12-2019, 22:23

Sky will find a way. Similar to Canal+ deal I expect Disney + to launch on SKYQ as part of the Ultimate on Demand package. No way SKY will be able to agree a deal that thwarts Disney+ from launching in the UK like their deal with HBO.

OLD BOY · 27-12-2019, 08:45

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Originally Posted by Chad

Sky will find a way. Similar to Canal+ deal I expect Disney + to launch on SKYQ as part of the Ultimate on Demand package. No way SKY will be able to agree a deal that thwarts Disney+ from launching in the UK like their deal with HBO.

I have no doubt that Disney + will appear on TV packages offered by various platforms, such as Sky, Virgin Media and BT. However, this will be at the expense of some Sky channels. This is a trend that will be very worrying for Sky, so their new studios are going to have to work flat out to replace what they will lose.

muppetman11 · 27-12-2019, 10:57

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

This is a trend that will be very worrying for Sky, so their new studios are going to have to work flat out to replace what they will lose.

Why so worrying for Sky ? I'd say more worrying for the likes of those platforms who own little to none of their own content.

Both Disney and Comcast are predicted to be the biggest global spenders of content.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/am...y-says-1167862

Legendkiller2k · 27-12-2019, 11:56

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

Disney pulls shows from Sky as it prepares for UK streaming debut

Disney + will launch in UK and Ireland on March 31st 2020.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...treaming-debut

I'd imagine shows such as Greys, Revenge etc would be on hulu uk which i suspect we'll see next year.

OLD BOY · 27-12-2019, 13:14

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Why so worrying for Sky ? I'd say more worrying for the likes of those platforms who own little to none of their own content.

Both Disney and Comcast are predicted to be the biggest global spenders of content.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/am...y-says-1167862

Because so much of their channel content comes from other studios. If Disney end up pulling all of their material from Sky, bang goes Sky Disney, the Disney Channel and Disney XD for a start. If other studios do the same, that's more channels down the shute.

Do you really think Sky can make up for all this with the programmes they will be making from their new studios?

I take the point that not all studios will necessarily go for the direct to consumer approach, but Sky will be eyeing this up very carefully, with some trepidation, I would have thought.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Sky will not survive this; I do believe it will. But things will look very different in the future, and people won't be prepared to spend a fortune on TV subscriptions as they do now with a lot fewer channels on offer.

muppetman11 · 27-12-2019, 13:34

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Because so much of their channel content comes from other studios. If Disney end up pulling all of their material from Sky, bang goes Sky Disney, the Disney Channel and Disney XD for a start. If other studios do the same, that's more channels down the shute.

Do you really think Sky can make up for all this with the programmes they will be making from their new studios?

I take the point that not all studios will necessarily go for the direct to consumer approach, but Sky will be eyeing this up very carefully, with some trepidation, I would have thought.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Sky will not survive this; I do believe it will. But things will look very different in the future, and people won't be prepared to spend a fortune on TV subscriptions as they do now with a lot fewer channels on offer.

And yet you tell us daily that Netflix has more than enough content to survive , Comcast and Sky combined has far more content under its belt and actually makes money from it unlike Netflix.

1andrew1 · 27-12-2019, 13:40

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

And yet you tell us daily that Netflix has more than enough content to survive , Comcast and Sky combined has far more content under its belt and actually makes money from it unlike Netflix.

Sky will also save money on not buying so much content from Disney and Comcast can give more prominenece to its content than it would have been able to do before.

muppetman11 · 27-12-2019, 13:57

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Sky will also save money on not buying so much content from Disney and Comcast can give more prominenece to its content than it would have been able to do before.

Completely agree , don't get me wrong I'm not playing down the potential loss of Disney content for many people it's must have content.

Sky will know it's figures and do everything in its power to reach some kind of deal even if it ends up a wholesale deal for Disney +.

Look how many Comcast shows end up on Netflix and Amazon currently , in the future I'd expect that to change with Comcast bolstering Sky's offering.

jfman · 27-12-2019, 13:58

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

And yet you tell us daily that Netflix has more than enough content to survive , Comcast and Sky combined has far more content under its belt and actually makes money from it unlike Netflix.

Exactly, the notion that one of the largest media companies in the world - that extracts its revenues and profits from retailing television - is going to be unable to adapt is completely ridiculous. Yet, these plucky upstarts that don't exist yet will absolutely thrive.

The market for half a dozen streamers (or more) is completely untested and unproven. Eleven Sports have proven that people won't subscribe to a streamer simply because it exists.

OLD BOY · 27-12-2019, 14:57

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

And yet you tell us daily that Netflix has more than enough content to survive , Comcast and Sky combined has far more content under its belt and actually makes money from it unlike Netflix.

And how much of that has already been screened in the UK? I'm sorry, but whilst Netflix will lose some content, they have so many originals on there, I'm sure they will survive!

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Exactly, the notion that one of the largest media companies in the world - that extracts its revenues and profits from retailing television - is going to be unable to adapt is completely ridiculous. Yet, these plucky upstarts that don't exist yet will absolutely thrive.

The market for half a dozen streamers (or more) is completely untested and unproven. Eleven Sports have proven that people won't subscribe to a streamer simply because it exists.

Nobody said that Sky will be unable to adapt. However, they will have to change.

jfman · 27-12-2019, 15:01

You have consistently portrayed Sky as under threat but not Netflix or Amazon - the incumbents in the £8.99 a month pay tv market.

muppetman11 · 27-12-2019, 17:42

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

And how much of that has already been screened in the UK? I'm sorry, but whilst Netflix will lose some content, they have so many originals on there, I'm sure they will survive!

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Nobody said that Sky will be unable to adapt. However, they will have to change.

As usual you are completely missing the point , shows such as The Sinner , Mr Robot , The Purge have been sold to the likes of Amazon and Netflix being that Comcast own the rights to these it's possible on future projects it will miss Amazon and Netflix and show the content on its own service and through Sky.

Its amazing how you somehow think Netflix are immune from competition and having shows pulled off its service by competing media cos.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatsp...in-on-netflix/

denphone · 27-12-2019, 17:53

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

As usual you are completely missing the point , shows such as The Sinner , Mr Robot , The Purge have been sold to the likes of Amazon and Netflix being that Comcast own the rights to these it's possible on future projects it will miss Amazon and Netflix and show the content on its own service and through Sky.

Its amazing how you somehow think Netflix are immune from competition and having shows pulled off its service by competing services.

He only sees what he wants to see springs to mind...