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Old 20-03-2019, 22:17   #196
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Re: Brexit (New).

The Times Political Editor thinks the reaction to her speech has pretty much killed what chance the deal has left: https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1108487563948507136
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Old 20-03-2019, 22:34   #197
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Re: Brexit (New).

How long before some idiot (Johnson?) suggests she spend two of the three month extension period going back to Brussels for a better deal and that they’ll fold if we test their resolve?
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Old 21-03-2019, 01:05   #198
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The people who vote against the deal are responsible, but so will she be. And so will the rest of the government.
No they are not responsible, how many times do I have to say this?

Her deal is NOT Brexit, it's an absolutely crap deal, so quite rightly they keep on rejecting it and a good potion of the rejections are from Remainer MPs, they are and never will be to blame for opposing a shoddy deal.
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Old 21-03-2019, 01:34   #199
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No they are not responsible, how many times do I have to say this?

Her deal is NOT Brexit, it's an absolutely crap deal, so quite rightly they keep on rejecting it and a good potion of the rejections are from Remainer MPs, they are and never will be to blame for opposing a shoddy deal.
No deal is better than a bad deal.
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Old 21-03-2019, 07:02   #200
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No they are not responsible, how many times do I have to say this?.
As many as you like, it’s just I disagree
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No they are not responsible, how many times do I have to say this?

Her deal is NOT Brexit, it's an absolutely crap deal, so quite rightly they keep on rejecting it and a good potion of the rejections are from Remainer MPs, they are and never will be to blame for opposing a shoddy deal.
It’s an interpretation of Brexit, one of only two on the table, and one I can live with just to move the whole sorry show onto the next phase.

However, if parliament still refuse to back it, god knows what’ll happen.
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Old 21-03-2019, 07:29   #202
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It was a good speech and i think the public will agree with what she said,watching these idiots squabble is pathetic and it's grinding people down.
Since her speech This petition has grown by over 350,000 signatures. It was only started a month ago.
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Redwood thinks the Speaker made the right decision



My MP was entirely correct. He also pointed out that Parliament voted for a referendum, it held a referendum and then legislated for the outcome of that referendum by a huge majority.

The parliamentary shenanigans now going on are as perfidious as Varadkar and Macron.
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Old 21-03-2019, 07:45   #204
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Re: Brexit (New).

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Since her speech This petition has grown by over 350,000 signatures. It was only started a month ago.
It won’t be considered for debate for 6 months, so ...
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Old 21-03-2019, 07:46   #205
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It’s an interpretation of Brexit, one of only two on the table, and one I can live with just to move the whole sorry show onto the next phase.

However, if parliament still refuse to back it, god knows what’ll happen.
This is actually quite a good stance. While nobody voted for the May deal it’s a reasonable compromise nobody is truly happy with but it’s not remaining and not leaving on WTO terms. It moves things forwards and reduces uncertainty.
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Re: Brexit (New).

The debate in this forum entirely represents the spectrum in Parliament. And that flies in the face of the Referendum result - as if the people's vote didn't matter.#

A shocking state of affairs - never mind the Varadkar tail wagging the May dog.

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Old 21-03-2019, 08:11   #207
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Since her speech This petition has grown by over 350,000 signatures. It was only started a month ago.
And I remember a petition the day after June 23rd, 2016, to stop Brexit, that one reached 4 million, it was rightfully ignored.

And there is going to be a completely pointless, Million march Sat in the London bubble yet agai, yawn, to oppose Brexit. When will people learn, marches don’t work. NHS, Miners strike, Iraq war, they don’t work?!?!?!
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Since her speech This petition has grown by over 350,000 signatures. It was only started a month ago.
Over 1/2 a million now ..
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The debate in this forum entirely represents the spectrum in Parliament. And that flies in the face of the Referendum result - as if the people's vote didn't matter.#

A shocking state of affairs - never mind the Varadkar tail wagging the May dog.

It’s not my fault, or that of anyone who voted remain, that Cameron’s arrogance in not believing he would lose has left no clear Brexit option.

There should have been a second question or referendum the week after to clarify which is the preferred model.
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No they are not responsible, how many times do I have to say this?

Her deal is NOT Brexit, it's an absolutely crap deal, so quite rightly they keep on rejecting it and a good potion of the rejections are from Remainer MPs, they are and never will be to blame for opposing a shoddy deal.
This is nor Brexit, it's the Withdrawal Agreement now. Leavers should save their energy for the trade agreement not the warm up gig
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