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Old 06-05-2021, 19:22   #211
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Re: The future of television

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You are wrong. Most streamed content drops all at once, as a series. A limited number of high-profile, big budget series drop one episode per week.

These are the same sorts of shows that would ‘drop’ weekly in a prime evening slot on broadcast TV. That they reserve some of their premium content for weekly release undermines your argument that streaming, and giving viewers limitless choice and absolute control at all times, is inherently better. In terms of justifying investment in the most expensive programmes, there is a clear need to get a critical mass of simultaneous, or near-simultaneous, viewing, so that word of mouth works to maximum effect to increase ratings.

This is something broadcast TV achieves simply by its nature. It is something a streaming service tries to approximate by undermining the very thing you have always claimed is its principal benefit.
Well, what if it is streamed weekly on a limited basis? The point I was making was that it is possible to do, if this was seen as the best way.

Incidentally, you may have noticed that the linear TV channels have been airing some things back to back in recent times. Obviously imitating an advantage that streaming has, except that you cannot watch at a time of your choosing unless you record the whole lot.

Streaming is far more flexible - you can binge watch or watch weekly and when you want. It requires a contortionist to try to advance an argument that linear TV is better than this.

However, I can see that some of you on this forum will resist the changes that are to come until they actually come. So enjoy it while it lasts.
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Old 06-05-2021, 19:37   #212
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Re: The future of television

No one is arguing that "linear TV is better than this" - you appear to be putting words in people’s mouths…

What people are saying is that both ways have their strengths and attractions, which is why we believe that in the future (beyond 2035) both will still be in use.
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Re: The future of television

I’m resisting the future by subscribing to three streaming services.

Once again OB is conflating personal preferences with observations on the market as a whole.
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Old 06-05-2021, 20:49   #214
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Re: The future of television

Resistance is futile - you will be astreamallated…

(MeThree - Disney+, Amazon Prime, and Netflix)

I have a car, but I also walk to our local shops/restaurants, and cycle occasionally - why am I not just using the car?
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However, I can see that some of you on this forum will resist the changes that are to come until they actually come. So enjoy it while it lasts.
There must be bigger things in your life to get stressed about on whether the future of tv is streaming/linear?

I'd worry more about Wokingham Town Fc . Are you a 442 stalwart or pack the midfield 3, 5, 2? It's a dilemma ...
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No, it doesn't. Airing new episodes weekly already happens for some programmes on Netflix, Amazon and Disney + for example. The programme simply appears on the designated day. You don't need a traditional linear channel to do that.
But that's linear isn't it? Tuesday at 7:30pm would still be 'Eastenders time'. I think you maybe should share with us your definitions of what is a linear channel and what is a streamer so those of us who dip in and out for the latest episode of the Old Boy & Jfman soap have some terms of reference. Thinking about it, you two arguing with predictable regularity could almost be described as a linear media offering .
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But that's linear isn't it? Tuesday at 7:30pm would still be 'Eastenders time'. I think you maybe should share with us your definitions of what is a linear channel and what is a streamer so those of us who dip in and out for the latest episode of the Old Boy & Jfman soap have some terms of reference. Thinking about it, you two arguing with predictable regularity could almost be described as a linear media offering .
We don't do definitions in this thread, Grim.
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But that's linear isn't it? Tuesday at 7:30pm would still be 'Eastenders time'. I think you maybe should share with us your definitions of what is a linear channel and what is a streamer so those of us who dip in and out for the latest episode of the Old Boy & Jfman soap have some terms of reference. Thinking about it, you two arguing with predictable regularity could almost be described as a linear media offering .
Here you go - from the previous "Re:Linear is old tech - on demand is the future" thread (01-12-2020 19:31)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1615

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Linear TV is live in the sense that we are watching it as it is being broadcast. That’s why it is often described as ‘live TV’.
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We don't do definitions in this thread, Grim.
Will me, just think if got clear definitions it would save all that head scratching (see my reply to Hugh below).

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Here you go - from the previous "Re:Linear is old tech - on demand is the future" thread (01-12-2020 19:31)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1615
Oh. If that makes EastEnders live TV, what does it make the sporting events like the FA cup or Olympics, or do we risk just covering well trodden ground again?
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But that's linear isn't it? Tuesday at 7:30pm would still be 'Eastenders time'. I think you maybe should share with us your definitions of what is a linear channel and what is a streamer so those of us who dip in and out for the latest episode of the Old Boy & Jfman soap have some terms of reference. Thinking about it, you two arguing with predictable regularity could almost be described as a linear media offering .
Who says it has to start at 7.30? It could be uploaded at midnight. Whatever time it’s uploaded doesn’t make it linear. Once uploaded, it is not only there for the duration of the programme. It remains on thereto be accessed on demand.

I don’t care what you choose to call it, to be honest. It’s not me getting hung up on the technical terms.
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I don’t care what you choose to call it, to be honest. It’s not me getting hung up on the technical terms.
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Who says it has to start at 7.30? It could be uploaded at midnight. Whatever time it’s uploaded doesn’t make it linear. Once uploaded, it is not only there for the duration of the programme. It remains on thereto be accessed on demand.

I don’t care what you choose to call it, to be honest. It’s not me getting hung up on the technical terms.
It doesn't have to start at 7:30 but if they just uploaded new episodes at random times they'd soon start getting complaints which would result in them setting an upload time. And why shouldn't it be 7:30, after all I'm pretty sure the BBC have a good idea of what works for a particular show and what doesn't.

I'm still confused when something is linear (scheduled) and when something isn't.
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It doesn't have to start at 7:30 but if they just uploaded new episodes at random times they'd soon start getting complaints which would result in them setting an upload time. And why shouldn't it be 7:30, after all I'm pretty sure the BBC have a good idea of what works for a particular show and what doesn't.

I'm still confused when something is linear (scheduled) and when something isn't.
It could be uploaded at 7.30, midnight or any time they chose. I agree that whatever time they picked, it would need to be consistent.
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It doesn't have to start at 7:30 but if they just uploaded new episodes at random times they'd soon start getting complaints which would result in them setting an upload time. And why shouldn't it be 7:30, after all I'm pretty sure the BBC have a good idea of what works for a particular show and what doesn't.

I'm still confused when something is linear (scheduled) and when something isn't.
Paul quoted Google about this last month

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It could be uploaded at 7.30, midnight or any time they chose. I agree that whatever time they picked, it would need to be consistent.
So released to a schedule, aka linear??
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