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ianch99 · 15-12-2021, 18:04

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Could someone bring back commercial union ? Think it’s needed with some recent posts

Explain?

daveeb · 15-12-2021, 18:07

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Originally Posted by ianch99

Explain?

Must admit that one whistled by here as well

mrmistoffelees · 15-12-2021, 18:09

Their catchphrase

Watching Dr. David Nabarro on sky news, he’s almost in a rage

Carth · 15-12-2021, 18:17

Thought he was going to cry at one stage

Pierre · 15-12-2021, 18:59

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Originally Posted by Hugh

How could they have increased the capacity in two years - it takes 3 to 4 years to train a nurse, and 8-10 to train a doctor, and no one has found a way to automate diagnosis and treatment?

Not being argumentative, just wondering what they could have done in the last two years to increase capacity - it's no good having more beds if we don't have the staff to treat the patients in them.

I'm sure there are initiatives that could have been undertaken.

Not my area of expertise, but if I was the health secretary or NHS boss, when it is known that we need to increase capacity quickly in the short term then I would have looked at all and any initiatives.

Like I say not my area of expertise but one I can think of, off the bat is How many ex-nurses are there? offer golden hellos to nurses that return.

If there is a real will to do something, something can be done.

**Paul** · 15-12-2021, 19:09

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Just had a phone call from my doctor. The situation is now so serious that she is to send out a nurse tomorrow as a matter of urgency to give myself (and other vulnerable people in the area) the booster and flu jab together.

If you're that "vulnerable" then why have you left it until now - to be contacted by a nurse.

You should have sorted both the booster and flu jabs out many many weeks ago, I even had mine in November.

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Originally Posted by Mick

I see double jabbed, even triple jabbed people, catch Covid with my own set of eyes.

I dont think anyone is disputing this ? They are clearly wrong if they are.
I know of several people who have caught it after being either double or triple jabbed.

As pointed out many times, the vaccinations do not stop you catching covid.
They prepare your body to fight it off, some people will do so with no obvious signs, some will still be ill.

The vast majority will not be seriously ill, which is the main point of it all.

RichardCoulter · 15-12-2021, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Paul

If you're that "vulnerable" then why have you left it until now - to be contacted by a nurse.

You should have sorted both the booster and flu jabs out many many weeks ago, I even had mine in November.

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I dont think anyone is disputing this ? They are clearly wrong if they are.
I know of several people who have caught it after being either double or triple jabbed.

As pointed out many times, the vaccinations do not stop you catching covid.
They prepare your body to fight it off, some people will do so with no obvious signs, some will still be ill.

The vast majority will not be seriously ill, which is the main point of it all.

Because I am now housebound and so could not attend the surgery or outreach centre. The way that it's rapidly spreading has obviously made the situation much more urgent from the way my doctor was talking.

When I enquired about the flu/booster jabs some weeks ago, it was explained to me that the third dose had to be kept at a cold temperature right up until it's administered. Presumably they now have some way of keeping it cold in the car?? Maybe they are able to do it by coming straight to my home from the surgery?? I'm not sure, I guess I will find out in the morning.

**Mick** · 15-12-2021, 20:43

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

I will go with the deep technical review of ~250,000 PCR tests over anecdotal experience but each to their own

Good for you, but relevancy to this discussion?

A PCR test doesn’t tell you the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.

**Damien** · 15-12-2021, 20:47

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Originally Posted by Mick

Good for you, but relevancy to this discussion?

A PCR test doesn’t tell you the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.

Seems they used NHS track and trace data so they'll know whose vaccinated, who isn't and the PCR results of in contact with them.

**Chris** · 15-12-2021, 20:54

At our booster appointment this evening there was a group of nurses at reception reading over the latest instructions from Sturgeon on who is and is not allowed to have a vaccination over the next 4-5 weeks. Basically in Scotland no 12-15s are now allowed. They have been eligible for a 1st jab for some time but anyone who hasn’t had it already is to be turned away until the booster program is complete.

nffc · 15-12-2021, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Chris

At our booster appointment this evening there was a group of nurses at reception reading over the latest instructions from Sturgeon on who is and is not allowed to have a vaccination over the next 4-5 weeks. Basically in Scotland no 12-15s are now allowed. They have been eligible for a 1st jab for some time but anyone who hasn’t had it already is to be turned away until the booster program is complete.

They're going to need 3 doses to be protected anyway surely.

They need to be prioritising boosters considering that those who are eligible for 1st doses have been so since August and haven't come forward - are they going to?

**Chris** · 15-12-2021, 21:19

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Originally Posted by nffc

They're going to need 3 doses to be protected anyway surely.

They need to be prioritising boosters considering that those who are eligible for 1st doses have been so since August and haven't come forward - are they going to?

As it happens, there was an entire family being turned away as we arrived (which I guess is the reason why the nurses were getting the pep-talk at that point). Three kids, all apparently in that age range, brought by their parents who presumably hadn’t thought it important enough until then.

jfman · 15-12-2021, 21:24

Were they at a designated drop in site or did they just rock up to chance their arm?

**Chris** · 15-12-2021, 21:28

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Originally Posted by jfman

Were they at a designated drop in site or did they just rock up to chance their arm?

Oho! See what you did there …

If I understood the chat properly, it’s a site that was a drop-in and is now appointment only. That said, missus and I were an hour early because we were expecting to queue, but they waved us straight in because it was quite quiet.

jfman · 15-12-2021, 21:29

Completely unintentional, honest.