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Old 13-01-2022, 23:17   #481
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I wonder why the May 20th "team meeting" didn’t take place in a pub, then?
What are you suggesting, Hugh? Boris would never have done that - it was illegal!
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What are you suggesting, Hugh? Boris would never have done that - it was illegal!
Well done!

That’s up there with your post on the definition of "linear TV".

Luckily you didn’t say ‘unlawful" rather than "illegal"…
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Old 13-01-2022, 23:21   #483
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Old 13-01-2022, 23:24   #484
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Ported from the Epstein thread.


We have more than allegations, we have actual evidence:
- The email invitation
- Johnson's admission he attended.

You could probably argue that we have witnesses as well.
The answers to which are:

- We don’t yet know whether the PM knew about that invitation;
- The PM has stated he addressed the employees but did not realise it was a party (if indeed it was).

I can understand why Boris-haters don’t want to wait for the inquiry. They might belatedly realise that this was an honest mistake - or maybe not a mistake or an illegal act at all.

This is the danger of relying on allegations. Making an allegation doesn’t make it true.

Unless you hate the person the allegation refers to, of course!
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So am I
I fail to see any emotive terminology. Her name’s Liz, he was Greek and looked like he died about 2005. I’m 99% certain there’d be no grave oscillation if that’s what you were worrying about. It’s only a figure of speech.
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He’s not a Conservative in any traditional sense. His unification of the party related to one issue, and one only.
What levelling up? Yes, that was very popular.

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Be interested to see how an event that allegedly had a DJ was a 'work event'
That word ‘allegedly’ comes up again. Funny, that.

God, and you wonder why the advice is to wait for the result of the inquiry.
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What levelling up? Yes, that was very popular.
Uh, oh. We’re onto the selective copying phase of deflection and distraction.

Chris knew what I meant and so do you.

As you were.
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Like shall we carry on to a club then go for a curry. You're the gift that keeps on giving.

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I will credit you with a vivid imagination, Grimmy. It’s a pity you use it to such destructive ends.
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The answers to which are:

- We don’t yet know whether the PM knew about that invitation;
- The PM has stated he addressed the employees but did not realise it was a party (if indeed it was).

I can understand why Boris-haters don’t want to wait for the inquiry. They might belatedly realise that this was an honest mistake - or maybe not a mistake or an illegal act at all.

This is the danger of relying on allegations. Making an allegation doesn’t make it true.

Unless you hate the person the allegation refers to, of course!
Hating someone does not make an allegation true. And I for one don't hate Boris. I know his strengths and weaknesses and have not been shy in pointing them out.

However, hating someone is a strong motivation to bring their career down if you have plenty of dirt on them. This is what is happening to Johnson now. Any idea of who it might be?

However, you insult Forum Members' intelligence if you think we're daft enough to swallow the line that Johnson didn't realise he was at a party.
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However, you insult Forum Members' intelligence if you think we're daft enough to swallow the line that Johnson didn't realise he was at a party.
Ironically he’s insulting the intelligence of Conservative voters more by insisting they will buy it!
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That word ‘allegedly’ comes up again. Funny, that.

God, and you wonder why the advice is to wait for the result of the inquiry.
Trouble is, by the time she's ready to publish the report, she'll have another collection of parties to review!

Maybe Johnson's leaking more parties to the press so that she's kept super busy, so she'll never get to publish the report!
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Tomorrow’s Times claims the finding will be that the gatherings were “not criminal”, which is a technicality Boris might use to try to cling on but what scintilla of moral authority he still has, will be gone.
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The scenario where Johnson survives is fairly simple. The Gray report, which Johnson’s allies are busy building up, is an anticlimax, refusing to say whether the prime minister should resign or opine on whether or not he broke the rules (Sue Gray’s remit is more to establish the facts than to pass judgment).
Sounds familiar…
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Uh, oh. We’re onto the selective copying phase of deflection and distraction.

Chris knew what I meant and so do you.

As you were.
It depends on your narrative, jfman.

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Hating someone does not make an allegation true. And I for one don't hate Boris. I know his strengths and weaknesses and have not been shy in pointing them out.

However, hating someone is a strong motivation to bring their career down if you have plenty of dirt on them. This is what is happening to Johnson now. Any idea of who it might be?

However, you insult Forum Members' intelligence if you think we're daft enough to swallow the line that Johnson didn't realise he was at a party.
What I am advocating is that we get all the information before making a judgement. What’s wrong with that?

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Trouble is, by the time she's ready to publish the report, she'll have another collection of parties to review!

Maybe Johnson's leaking more parties to the press so that she's kept super busy, so she'll never get to publish the report!
Now your desperation is making you perverse.

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The ‘facts’ are what are most important here, and we don’t have all the facts, just allegations.
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

"Wait for the results of the enquiry" is the 21st Century’s "That would be an ecumenical matter"…

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FACT - Johnson went into a garden where over 30 people were socialising, and stayed there for 25 minutes; this was, under the laws of that date, illegal.
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What I am advocating is that we get all the information before making a judgement. What’s wrong with that?
We've got sufficient information to make an informed decision. We know he attended a party and we know that such gatherings were illegal under his own laws.

Sue Gray's role is to take the sting out of the tail by delaying matters.

The Telegraph, Mail and Express know that the best chance of Conservative victory in 2024 is if Johnson steps down sooner than later. I'm surprised you don't agree with them.
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