Brexit discussion - Page 33

pip08456 · 26-10-2017, 18:34

There are many in this country and others who are educated who have never been to university.
A university degree is not an indication of education especially if measured by the degree attained.

**Damien** · 26-10-2017, 18:46

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Originally Posted by pip08456

There are many in this country and others who are educated who have never been to university.
A university degree is not an indication of education especially if measured by the degree attained.

Well I think a degree is an indication of education but I agree it's not the only measure of education, intelligence or skill.

My point was more at the hysterical paranoia the Mail is exhibiting by presenting the idea that Universities tend to have students, staff and insinuations which are more liberal and pro-Remain as some sort of shock scandal. They've even asked for examples of this bias.

pip08456 · 26-10-2017, 21:52

I agree that there is a degree of paranoia in regard to those that have a university degree but it is not just the mail.
I used to do a highly skilled job where a degree student would have been useless as they didn't have the skills.
I had to take what they put on paper and make it a reality.

1andrew1 · 26-10-2017, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Damien

My point was more at the hysterical paranoia the Mail is exhibiting by presenting the idea that Universities tend to have students, staff and insinuations which are more liberal and pro-Remain as some sort of shock scandal. They've even asked for examples of this bias.

Daily Mail and Express fans may well disagree, but these aren't the traditional values that have put the Great into Great Britain.
I read Christopher Heaton-Harris's letter. It made no mention of why he wanted the information. Advising the reason would have encouraged a good response so I'm sceptical that he wanted it for an uncommissioned book.

TheDaddy · 26-10-2017, 22:28

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Originally Posted by pip08456

I see you and the rags you read don't know the difference between may and will.
I also note you seem to again appear to be asserting that leavers are uneducated.

Did he ever say that leavers are uneducated or did he link to a story in a paper saying that or doesn't that matter

pip08456 · 26-10-2017, 22:56

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Did he ever say that leavers are uneducated or did he link to a story in a paper saying that or doesn't that matter

What part of appear don't you understand?
Someone may appear to do or adocate something without actually doing so.

Even this "uneducated " Brexit error realises this.

1andrew1 · 26-10-2017, 23:14

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Originally Posted by pip08456

What part of appear don't you understand?
Someone may appear to do or advocate something without actually doing so.
Even this "uneducated " Brexit error realises this.

Are you suggesting that it is possible that if someone says, "Links posted from news sources are not necessarily my opinion. I don't have the time or the crayons to keep explaining this" they may be advocating the opinions expressed in those very links?

pip08456 · 26-10-2017, 23:28

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Are you suggesting that it is possible that if someone says, "Links posted from news sources are not necessarily my opinion. I don't have the time or the crayons to keep explaining this" they may be advocating the opinions expressed in those very links?

I would not be that inane or uneducated.

TheDaddy · 26-10-2017, 23:29

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Originally Posted by pip08456

What part of appear don't you understand?
Someone may appear to do or adocate something without actually doing so.

Even this "uneducated " Brexit error realises this.

I don't understand the word adocate for a start. I've posted links to articles I don't agree with just to stimulate debate.

1andrew1 · 26-10-2017, 23:34

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I don't understand the word adocate for a start. I've posted links to articles I don't agree with just to stimulate debate.

As we all do and acknowledged in post #488. It would be a dull world otherwise.

**Damien** · 27-10-2017, 12:54

https://twitter.com/pswidlicki/statu...71483679657985

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Interesting, UBS says it's had "regulatory and political clarifications” making it less likely it'll move as many as 1000 jobs out of London

So what does that mean? The two main concerns they have are continuation of regulatory rules and access to labour. Has the government told them this will remain in some respect?

1andrew1 · 27-10-2017, 23:27

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https://twitter.com/pswidlicki/statu...71483679657985

So what does that mean? The two main concerns they have are continuation of regulatory rules and access to labour. Has the government told them this will remain in some respect?

The FT surmises that he believes there will be a transition deal.

RichardCoulter · 28-10-2017, 01:40

If Catalonia is successful in their desire for independence, surely they will also cease to be a member of the EU.

If they decide not to negotiate to join the EU, will this be viewed as a further crack in the concept of the whole thing?

**Mick** · 28-10-2017, 11:49

Cracks are growing far and wide, as they should, EU is a totally corrupt and failed project.

Mr K · 28-10-2017, 12:39

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Cracks are growing far and wide, as they should, EU is a totally corrupt and failed project.

Well we've done rather well out of it. GDP growth exceeding that of France, Germany and the USA since we joined.

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