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Old 24-10-2016, 20:45   #2221
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I think that has more to do with the change in peoples viewing habits than Brexit ,it's been on the cards for a while .

can't wait to see what else is blamed on Brexit,getting silly now
The thing is, TV advertising was actually growing until very recently. 2015 was a record year for TV advertising and the sixth successive year that it has risen. It grew some 7.4% in 2015 whilst the general advertising market grew 6.1%. Similar forecasts were made for 2016 and until recently, TV companies were on track.
I was surprised to learn this - I would have expected TV to be suffering from online advertising but online sites actually account for a significant amount of advertising on TV now!
https://www.thinkbox.tv/News-and-opi...for-first-time
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The thing is, TV advertising was actually growing until very recently. 2015 was a record year for TV advertising and the sixth successive year that it has risen. It grew some 7.4% in 2015 whilst the general advertising market grew 6.1%. Similar forecasts were made for 2016 and until recently, TV companies were on track.
I was surprised to learn this - I would have expected TV to be suffering from online advertising but online sites actually account for a significant amount of advertising on TV now!
https://www.thinkbox.tv/News-and-opi...for-first-time
It is peculiar ,i would have expected tv advertising to be falling due to the ability of viewers to skip advertising but as you say it has been rising in recent years .
 
Old 25-10-2016, 12:14   #2223
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Yes because the UK only had workers rights after joining the EU before that we worked em till they dropped oh wait no we did have workers rights and we had jobs as well. No politician in their right mind is going to get up and suggest much less put on a manifesto to eliminate paid holiday it's right up there with abolishing the national pension, i don't doubt a couple of rich loons within the tory party think like that but the chances of it being more then a lunatic fringe idea is zero.

People could be forgiven for thinking the UK was a third world country before joining the EU and the EU valiantly dragging us into first world status you'd never believe the UK was a success before the EU or that we managed to prosper without help from brussels. Delusion exists in equal measure on both sides and both sides also have their share of vocal rose tinted spec wearers. It's time for them to fade into the background and let the grown ups handle things.
 
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I'm still not convinced that we'll leave entirely, if at all.

My belief is that there are positive and negative arguments for staying and leaving.

Would anybody who voted to leave have their mind swayed if the main problems of unstoppable EU immigration, sovereignty and unaudited accounts were to be properly dealt with?
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I'm still not convinced that we'll leave entirely, if at all.

My belief is that there are positive and negative arguments for staying and leaving.

Would anybody who voted to leave have their mind swayed if the main problems of unstoppable EU immigration, sovereignty and unaudited accounts were to be properly dealt with?
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What are your reason/s?
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Theresa May’s hard line on immigration is what the public wants, poll shows

"The “hard Brexit” signalled by Theresa May may have spooked currency traders and heralded possible rising prices at the supermarket, but she has the backing of a majority of British people, according to a new poll. The results show that more than half of Britons think reducing immigration is more of a concern than keeping the benefits of single-market EU trade."

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/...ts-poll-shows/
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I'm not interested in the EU full stop until they stop the march towards a united europe and federal state and that isn't going to happen because too many politicians want that regardless of what the people say or want. The EU does not listen nor does it take the views of it's citizens into account on policy and that's why it's falling apart, more and more people across the EU are seeing the endgame and they don't want it. If the EU gave up it's federal dream and went back to being a purely trade alliance I'd be happy for us to remain but if that happened would i trust it no probably not as that federal dream seems hard coded in some politicians and will never fully die.
 
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Theresa May’s hard line on immigration is what the public wants, poll shows

"The “hard Brexit” signalled by Theresa May may have spooked currency traders and heralded possible rising prices at the supermarket, but she has the backing of a majority of British people, according to a new poll. The results show that more than half of Britons think reducing immigration is more of a concern than keeping the benefits of single-market EU trade."

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/...ts-poll-shows/
Yes, I believe that not being able to control the quantity and quality of immigrants is the straw that broke the camel's back.

It wasn't too bad when people from countries similar to ours were coming over, but when the poorer countries joined it became a whole different ball game.

Afterwards the PC brigade tried to make out it was mainly about sovereignty, but most people I've spoken to think that uncontrolled immigration is the main problem.

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I'm not interested in the EU full stop until they stop the march towards a united europe and federal state and that isn't going to happen because too many politicians want that regardless of what the people say or want. The EU does not listen nor does it take the views of it's citizens into account on policy and that's why it's falling apart, more and more people across the EU are seeing the endgame and they don't want it. If the EU gave up it's federal dream and went back to being a purely trade alliance I'd be happy for us to remain but if that happened would i trust it no probably not as that federal dream seems hard coded in some politicians and will never fully die.
The EU appear to be out of touch, arrogant, controlling and aloof.

I think that the UK leave vote has been a kick up the bottom that they needed and will encourage other countries to speak out about their concerns.

If the problems are resolved to our Governments satisfaction, I can see us staying in partly or fully, perhaps after another referendum to try to obtain the approval of the electorate first.
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Leaked recording shows what Theresa May really thinks about Brexit

"Theresa May privately warned that companies would leave the UK if the country voted for Brexit during a secret audience with investment bankers a month before the EU referendum.
A recording of her remarks to Goldman Sachs, leaked to the Guardian, reveals she had numerous concerns about Britain leaving the EU. It contrasts with her nuanced public speeches, which dismayed remain campaigners before the vote in June."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-about-brexit
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Leaked recording shows what Theresa May really thinks about Brexit

"Theresa May privately warned that companies would leave the UK if the country voted for Brexit during a secret audience with investment bankers a month before the EU referendum.
A recording of her remarks to Goldman Sachs, leaked to the Guardian, reveals she had numerous concerns about Britain leaving the EU. It contrasts with her nuanced public speeches, which dismayed remain campaigners before the vote in June."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-about-brexit
It's a bit of non-story this and it is no surprise that the Guardian, venomously anti-brexit, jumps on it.

The recording is from May, a month before the referendum, we already kind of knew she was not for brexit, she played a card, and toed along with the anti-brexit stance in her own way, she now however, has a duty to deliver on the referendum result, regardless of what her view was then compared to what it is now and deliver she will. Move along, nothing to see here.
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It's fairly obvious she wanted to have a future in politics regardless of the outcome and so acted with moderation so as not to alienate anyone. Fair enough. The only people getting hot and bothered about this are hardcore remainiacs for whom the EU is an article of faith.
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