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Old 10-08-2017, 14:20   #1
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The Welsh language

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Is the Welsh language a help or hindrance to the nation?
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You can go to a Welsh medium school, come out of it and you cannot speak Welsh. What's the point in all of the money? It's nonsense.
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S4C is down, Radio Cymru is down, the Census of 2011 is down, all of them are down. All this money they're pumping into the language is not making more people speak Welsh.
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In an ideal world, everyone would just be left to their own devices and pick up Welsh naturally.
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Re: "The Welsh language

Touchy subject.However there is a north/south Wales divide over it.
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Re: "The Welsh language

I would love to learn Welsh... it gives Wales and its people that special identity after all I believe it is one of the rare Celtic languages in existance. It is a shame the English Celtic language did not survive due to all the invasions in England's past history.
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Re: "The Welsh language

The Welsh language is part of a national identity. My mother's first language was Welsh, I'm the only English born and bred in the family. Been visiting Wales for years, the amount of people speaking Welsh keeps increasing.

It's arrogant of English tourists to be offended by Welsh people speaking Welsh in Wales - but they often whinge on. I think we English are jealous because we don't have much of a national identity any longer.
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Re: "The Welsh language

English is a beautifully expressive language and rightly deserves its international status. Welsh is the poetic language of the indigenous Britons. Both languages are part of our heritage and as such belong to us all.

We are to spend £m's preserving the Houses of Parliament, Buckingham Palace, Stonehenge, Castles, burial sites and monuments; they are important to our history.

We should preserve our languages too for the same reason.
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Old 11-08-2017, 04:20   #6
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Re: "The Welsh language

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It's arrogant of English tourists to be offended by Welsh people speaking Welsh in Wales
Despite the fact that we now live in a country where everyone gets offended by everything, Ive never heard of this one.

I have heard of Welsh people speaking English, until some English people appear, then they switch to speaking Welsh.

Of course, that may not be true either.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:30   #7
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The Welsh language is part of a national identity. My mother's first language was Welsh, I'm the only English born and bred in the family. Been visiting Wales for years, the amount of people speaking Welsh keeps increasing.

It's arrogant of English tourists to be offended by Welsh people speaking Welsh in Wales - but they often whinge on. I think we English are jealous because we don't have much of a national identity any longer.
Now now Mr K stop generalising me dear.

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The Welsh language is part of a national identity. My mother's first language was Welsh, I'm the only English born and bred in the family. Been visiting Wales for years, the amount of people speaking Welsh keeps increasing.

It's arrogant of English tourists to be offended by Welsh people speaking Welsh in Wales - but they often whinge on. I think we English are jealous because we don't have much of a national identity any longer.
More rubbish invented claims yet again.
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:14   #8
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More rubbish invented claims yet again.
Just look at the national days Den; St George's Day -does it mean anything to the people of England ? it's barely mentioned. Where as St. Davids, Andrews and Patrick's Day are widely celebrated in their own countries and beyond.

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Despite the fact that we now live in a country where everyone gets offended by everything, Ive never heard of this one.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ist-board.html

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In many cases, this perception stemmed from use of the Welsh language. Every English focus group which took part in the study had stories about visitors feeling deliberately excluded when locals started talking in Welsh.
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What the tourists don't understand is that people genuinely speak Welsh in Wales. It's been compulsory in Welsh schools for over 25 years now and use of the language has become more widespread.
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Re: The Welsh language

I wonder if people feel excluded by Germans who speak German in Germany or Spaniards who speak.......well, you get the idea.
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Old 11-08-2017, 13:20   #10
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Re: The Welsh language

I learnt some of the language of heaven when I was at uni in Wales (Neuadd Pantycelyn, Aberystwyth) but that was many moons ago and since I've not used it, I've lost most of it. Some students there Welsh was definitely their first language and some struggled in English. Many went to Aber and stayed in Pantycelyn to keep their Welshness.
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Old 11-08-2017, 13:39   #11
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Re: The Welsh language

Dydw i ddim yn gwybod a yw hyn yn gweithio, Fi jyst ei gyfieithu â google
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Just look at the national days Den; St George's Day -does it mean anything to the people of England ? it's barely mentioned. Where as St. Davids, Andrews and Patrick's Day are widely celebrated in their own countries and beyond.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ist-board.html


What the tourists don't understand is that people genuinely speak Welsh in Wales. It's been compulsory in Welsh schools for over 25 years now and use of the language has become more widespread.
It's all just a load of tosh, in my view. Language divides us, leads to misunderstandings and isolates those who speak these minority languages (unless they are bi-lingual).

In a perfect world, we would all speak one language. I'm sure we would all get on better if we did and it would cease to be a trade barrier. I'm sure there must be many a small business who would trade abroad if only they could communicate with people in those countries.

As for all these saints days, they are only useful as excuses to have a Bank Holiday for most people. Sorry, generalising again!
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Re: The Welsh language

Welsh is just Yiddish spoken by Scottish people.
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Dydw i ddim yn gwybod a yw hyn yn gweithio, Fi jyst ei gyfieithu â google
Ymddengys bod cyfieithu Google yn gweithio'n iawn.
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