10-01-2022, 11:55
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
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That's been a common hypothesis since the start of the pandemic. I have posted articles on this several times on this thread.
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10-01-2022, 14:28
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Re: Coronavirus
Ikea cuts sick pay for unvaccinated staff forced to self-isolate
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59930206
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Ikea, which employs about 10,000 people in the UK, said in a statement: "Fully vaccinated co-workers or those with mitigating circumstances will receive full pay for self-isolations.
"Unvaccinated co-workers will be paid in line with our company absence policy for self-isolation, with close-contact isolation being paid at Statutory Sick Pay.
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In England, people who are vaccinated with at least two doses need not self-isolate if they have been in close contact with someone infected with Covid. Unvaccinated people contacted through the government's test-and-trace system must still isolate by law.
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UK trade unions are concerned about staff relying on only statutory sick pay because they say the rate is too low, forcing workers to ignore isolation rules and spread the infection.
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UK trade unions are concerned . . because some of their members who refuse vaccinations won't get full sick pay
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10-01-2022, 14:53
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Carth
UK trade unions are concerned . . because some of their members who refuse vaccinations won't get full sick pay
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10-01-2022, 15:03
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Carth
UK trade unions are concerned . . because some of their members who refuse vaccinations won't get full sick pay
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If like the majority of the country they live pay cheque to pay cheque then the unions have a point, I was on SSP for 4 months last year and it would be a toss up if I was made homeless or starved to death first if I had to rely on that alone
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10-01-2022, 15:10
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Carth
Ikea cuts sick pay for unvaccinated staff forced to self-isolate
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59930206
UK trade unions are concerned . . because some of their members who refuse vaccinations won't get full sick pay
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Is it legal to discriminate in this way?
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10-01-2022, 15:12
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Is it legal to discriminate in this way?
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I suspect that it depends on what's in the employment contract.
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10-01-2022, 15:39
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Is it legal to discriminate in this way?
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Yes.
Company enhanced sickness absence payments are a matter for employment contracts. Payments over and above statutory sick pay are usually for a limited number of days per year though some employers may use their discretion to extend company sick pay in exceptional circumstances (I benefited from this once, years ago, during an extended absence). But basically, as long as they pay statutory sick pay to everyone they’re within the law. They don’t have to pay you any more.
This is as it should be. If an individual exercises their freedom to choose the risk of going unvaccinated, then the risks should be borne by that individual. There’s no good reason why their employer should carry the can.
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10-01-2022, 16:16
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Chris
Yes.
Company enhanced sickness absence payments are a matter for employment contracts. Payments over and above statutory sick pay are usually for a limited number of days per year though some employers may use their discretion to extend company sick pay in exceptional circumstances (I benefited from this once, years ago, during an extended absence). But basically, as long as they pay statutory sick pay to everyone they’re within the law. They don’t have to pay you any more.
This is as it should be. If an individual exercises their freedom to choose the risk of going unvaccinated, then the risks should be borne by that individual. There’s no good reason why their employer should carry the can.
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sounds like ikea will become a covid hot bed when the unvaccinated stop testing and just turn up for work to receive full pay when they show symptoms.
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10-01-2022, 16:26
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
sounds like ikea will become a covid hot bed when the unvaccinated stop testing and just turn up for work to receive full pay when they show symptoms.
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Think it's already a hotspot - was there yesterday, it was rammed and plenty of punters not wearing masks.
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10-01-2022, 16:26
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
sounds like ikea will become a covid hot bed when the unvaccinated stop testing and just turn up for work to receive full pay when they show symptoms.
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Wouldnt that be illegal atm ?
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10-01-2022, 16:39
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Paul
Wouldnt that be illegal atm ?
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if you don't know you have it ,because you haven't tested for it how can it be.
and let's not forget the unvaccinated are "selfish, evil ,a danger to society , good tennis players"........
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10-01-2022, 16:51
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Re: Coronavirus
I don't think we are going to keep on testing forever.
I mean, it is completly impossible to think we can vaccinate the world every 6 months when some parts of Africa havent even had their first vaccine yet.
I think things will become normal again in the coming months....You won't have to test unless going into places like hospitals, care homes, etc.
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10-01-2022, 16:56
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Halcyon
I don't think we are going to keep on testing forever.
I mean, it is completly impossible to think we can vaccinate the world every 6 months when some parts of Africa havent even had their first vaccine yet.
I think things will become normal again in the coming months....You won't have to test unless going into places like hospitals, care homes, etc.
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As soon as people are charged for testing the obsession will die out.
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10-01-2022, 17:49
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Re: Coronavirus
Well, with the relaxation of the requirement for PCR testing, we can now sit back, relax, and watch the number of infections come down rapidly.
Panic over, as you were, masks off....
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10-01-2022, 18:09
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Well, with the relaxation of the requirement for PCR testing, we can now sit back, relax, and watch the number of infections come down rapidly.
Panic over, as you were, masks off....
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