12-01-2022, 22:39
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Coronavirus
Covid is over………………….
In so far as restrictions will not be brought in because finally the government know that the population won’t follow their edicts now.
In regards to the actual disease, well it wasn’t really dangerous to fit healthy people anyway.
So instead of boosters, and mandated vaccination. How about mandating exercise and diet?
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12-01-2022, 22:47
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Re: Coronavirus
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I'd disagree with you on that one.
Given that it is a milder, and as you say a "minimal risk to life" illness, this in actuality, means that the discrepancy between hospitalisations and deaths with or of covid matters more than at any stage previously in the pandemic.
In other words, has this person died because they had covid? Or have they died from some other reason but at some point in the recent past they tested positive for covid, which had no influence on their death?
Or, this person coming to hospital, because they can't stop coughing and can't breathe because they have covid, or because they broke their leg at a football game, and tested positive?
Yes, I do get that a covid-positive patient, whether or not they are in because they have covid, perhaps requires additional barrier methods, but, the detail is still important here.
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That's very important. It suggests that there is a higher proportion of deaths that would have anyway occurred. In other words, if this continues, Covid has been cracked.
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12-01-2022, 23:08
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Re: Coronavirus
It was estimated (2/3 weeks ago) that about 30% of 'covid' admissions were actually people admitted for other reasons, but then tested positive.
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In fact, I posted it here : https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...d#post36107388
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13-01-2022, 09:42
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Re: Coronavirus
We have a couple of friends who contracted Covid in hospital, not uncommon but that will also inflate figures of people in hospital with Covid. It could also extend their stay even if just for obs or because their "other condition" makes combination with Covid more risky.
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13-01-2022, 12:45
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Coronavirus
Economics is a science I suppose…
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13-01-2022, 13:15
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
Economics is a science I suppose…
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nah, economics is simply not spending more than you're earning, even my mum could do that and she was definitely no scientist . . . although she was good at making meals with leftovers, so maybe in a way she was
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13-01-2022, 19:28
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Re: Coronavirus
From Department of Health and Social Care and The Rt Hon Sajid Javid MP
Published 13 January 2022
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snipett... People self-isolating with COVID-19 will have the option to reduce their isolation period after 5 full days if they test negative on both day 5 and day 6 and do not have a temperature, from Monday, 17 January
Individuals who are still positive on their rapid lateral flow tests must stay in isolation until they have had 2 consecutive negative tests taken on separate days
This will support essential public services and keep supply chains running over the winter
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/s...tive-lfd-tests
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14-01-2022, 04:21
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Re: Coronavirus
10 >> 7 >> 5, perhaps they are slowly realising all this isolation is doing more damage than good.
Why do we still need special self isolation at all ?
People who are ill dont exactly rush to go out anyway.
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14-01-2022, 08:58
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Paul
10 >> 7 >> 5, perhaps they are slowly realising all this isolation is doing more damage than good.
Why do we still need special self isolation at all ?
People who are ill dont exactly rush to go out anyway.
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Depends on what sort of boss or manager they have.Some seem to think that their employees should bustle into work in their coffin.
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14-01-2022, 11:53
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Re: Coronavirus
It's taken many many more months than it should have but finally the government have realised that this is now a seasonal endemic illness that can easily be treated with vaccines or other treatments.
Finally, we can now say that it's just going to be like the flu (as long as no pesky scientists bugger about with that gain of function malarky).
There should be no need to test anymore.
But If you do still test positive there should be no reason to isolate or be off work unless you are actually ill.
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14-01-2022, 12:57
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Re: Coronavirus
If Covid is seasonal what seasons has it not caused a wave of infections?
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Depends on what sort of boss or manager they have.Some seem to think that their employees should bustle into work in their coffin.
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It would seem perverse to encourage infectious people into workplaces - in particular in the service and hospitality sectors everyone worries so much about until it comes to paying furlough.
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14-01-2022, 13:04
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
It's taken many many more months than it should have but finally the government have realised that this is now a seasonal endemic illness that can easily be treated with vaccines or other treatments.
Finally, we can now say that it's just going to be like the flu (as long as no pesky scientists bugger about with that gain of function malarky).
There should be no need to test anymore.
But If you do still test positive there should be no reason to isolate or be off work unless you are actually ill.
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Which season? Spring, Summer, Autumn or Winter?
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14-01-2022, 14:15
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Which season? Spring, Summer, Autumn or Winter?
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Indications are clearly that it is an illness that starts to ramp up as you enter Autumn/ Winter and dissipates through Spring/Summer.
An annual vaccination for those that require one will become the norm.
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14-01-2022, 15:37
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Which season? Spring, Summer, Autumn or Winter?
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Pretty much Autum & Winter.
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14-01-2022, 18:34
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Re: Coronavirus
From todays BBC update ;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59999786
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UK records lowest daily Covid cases in weeks
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The number of daily Covid-19 cases recorded in the UK is below 100,000 for the first time in weeks. A further 99,652 cases were reported on Friday. This is the lowest figure recorded in the past 23 days
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