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Old 24-05-2021, 13:46   #16
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Re: UK BLM leader shot in head.

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Got it - more haste and less speed on my part!

Agree that it seems odd but reading the Daily Mail story above suggests wrong place, wrong time. Hmm.
Nothing to do with wrong time and place, just simply mixing with the wrong set of people.
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Old 24-05-2021, 19:42   #17
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Re: UK BLM leader shot in head.

Whilst she might not have been a specific target, it may well have been the views/actions of the general group that were being targetted.

There are a number of black people I have spoken to who are not happy with the issues that BLM/Wokeism are creating.

If this disapproval is also shared by the types of black people who use guns, this could well be the result.
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Old 24-05-2021, 20:02   #18
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Whilst she might not have been a specific target, it may well have been the views/actions of the general group that were being targetted.

There are a number of black people I have spoken to who are not happy with the issues that BLM/Wokeism are creating.

If this disapproval is also shared by the types of black people who use guns, this could well be the result.
One focus of BLM is to protect Black criminals by saying to Police, "you aren't allowed to arrest us". What issues that she expressed, that certain Black people are meant to be objecting to the extent of shooting her?
Mix with Black gang members and there is the possibility of being shot. Time and place are immaterial. There is no place or time that isn't "wrong".
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Old 24-05-2021, 20:16   #19
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Re: UK BLM leader shot in head.

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One focus of BLM is to protect Black criminals by saying to Police, "you aren't allowed to arrest us". What issues that she expressed, that certain Black people are meant to be objecting to the extent of shooting her?
Mix with Black gang members and there is the possibility of being shot. Time and place are immaterial. There is no place or time that isn't "wrong".
I thought the focus was on the need to stop American cops from murdering black people. Silly me!
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Old 24-05-2021, 20:26   #20
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I thought the focus was on the need to stop American cops from murdering black people. Silly me!
By not trying to arrest Black Criminals in the first place. EACH occurrence was where a Black criminal resisted and didn't want to be arrested, just as in the cases where Black criminals have shot Police officers. White criminals have also died in SIMILAR circumstances.
Still begs the unanswered(of course) question of what in the BLM agenda could the Black gangs supposedly be afraid of?
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By not trying to arrest Black Criminals in the first place. EACH occurrence was where a Black criminal resisted and didn't want to be arrested, just as in the cases where Black criminals have shot Police officers. White criminals have also died in SIMILAR circumstances.
Still begs the unanswered(of course) question of what in the BLM agenda could the Black gangs supposedly be afraid of?
From the scant details available, it seems to me to be a straightforward "hit". If so that begs the question of who keeps what company and why?
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I think that is how most would read it.

I'll go out on a limb and predict that the shooter. if indeed there is a third party involved, isn't white.
Bingo .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57238301

Although it gets more odd.

4 folk just rock up go into the garden and discharge a firearm at random. Not credible.

Someone was the target whether that was or wasn't Ms Johnson.
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Re: UK BLM leader shot in head.

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Bingo .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57238301

Although it gets more odd.

4 folk just rock up go into the garden and discharge a firearm at random. Not credible.

Someone was the target whether that was or wasn't Ms Johnson.
Agreed - it looks to all intents and purposes like a targeted attack to me. Didn't original reports talk of the gang targeting someone else who they had an issue with?
Maybe the police are throwing out misleading information to confuse the suspects?
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Re: UK BLM leader shot in head.

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Bingo .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57238301

Although it gets more odd.

4 folk just rock up go into the garden and discharge a firearm at random. Not credible.

Someone was the target whether that was or wasn't Ms Johnson.
BLM activist killed, either randomly or targeted. by a black person...that obviously didn't think that her black life mattered.

The Irony is overwhelming.

But again this is only a reflection of what goes in in America daily. BLM like to protest about "white oppression" and the unfortunate deaths at the hands of the police, the vast majority of which are lawful.

But conveniently ignore that epidemic of black on black violence and deaths that far surpass any other violence against black people. A black person in the US and most likely in the UK too, is far more likely to be killed by another black person than a white person or the police.

(I don't have a link, but it's a well know fact, a quick Google will back up any of that)
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Re: UK BLM leader shot in head.

Why don't we just wait to see what transpires further down the timeline before making any judgements?
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BLM activist killed, either randomly or targeted. by a black person...that obviously didn't think that her black life mattered.

The Irony is overwhelming.

But again this is only a reflection of what goes in in America daily. BLM like to protest about "white oppression" and the unfortunate deaths at the hands of the police, the vast majority of which are lawful.

But conveniently ignore that epidemic of black on black violence and deaths that far surpass any other violence against black people. A black person in the US and most likely in the UK too, is far more likely to be killed by another black person than a white person or the police.

(I don't have a link, but it's a well know fact, a quick Google will back up any of that)
The big difference being is that the civilians doing the killing are criminals, whilst the police should be held to a higher standard - you know "Protect and Serve", not "they're black, we'll treat them differently/more harshly than white people"; when black people commit crimes against black people, they face prosecution, but when police officers commit crimes against black people, they face getting off with little if any punishment.

90% of black murder victims in the US are killed by black assailants - also, 83% of white victims are killed by white assailants, but strangely enough, that statistic is rarely mentioned.
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The big difference being is that the civilians doing the killing are criminals, whilst the police should be held to a higher standard - you know "Protect and Serve", not "they're black, we'll treat them differently/more harshly than white people"...

. . . and do they treat them differently, or is it much more of a news story if they're black?
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. . . and do they treat them differently, or is it much more of a news story if they're black?
Volumes of White people killed by police in the USA far surpass the number of black people killed by police in the USA. Approximate double.

% per population is the issue - but it also isn't as clear cut as people would make you think on that metric either. Inner city hotspots and socio-economic issues, same as any country.

The main factor in America in the gun culture.
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Got it - more haste and less speed on my part!

Agree that it seems odd but reading the Daily Mail story above suggests wrong place, wrong time. Hmm.
Seems to be the line being put about today by the media. Not that l trust any of them that much
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Volumes of White people killed by police in the USA far surpass the number of black people killed by police in the USA. Approximate double.

% per population is the issue - but it also isn't as clear cut as people would make you think on that metric either. Inner city hotspots and socio-economic issues, same as any country.

The main factor in America in the gun culture.
Double the number of white people are killed by the police, but white people make up five times more of the population - which means, per capita, black people are killed at two and a half time’s the rate of white people by the US police…

Also, fatal police shootings of unarmed Black people in US is more than 3 times as high as in Whites

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom...-as-in-whites/
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