Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[Derek]

Democracy SNP style. Don't like what someone is saying just cut the off and move on.

THE SNP Government’s independence white paper is “wrong in international law” over claims that Scotland would get a share of the UK’s global embassies and consulates, MSPs have been told.


But a major row broke out at Holyrood’s European and External Relations committee today when opposition parties claimed a key witness had been “cut off” as he criticised SNP plans.

Professor Adam Tomkins, who was a member of the Tories’ recent devolution commission, claimed that Scotland would not be entitled to a “fair share” of the UK’s extensive overseas properties.

http://m.scotsman.com/news/politics/...-law-1-3442059

[Chad]

Some of the stories over the past 48 hours about the conduct of the YES campaign and their supporters, in regards to JK Rowling and Ms. Lally, have been shocking. The thing is some of the people spewing their bile on social media aren't even what you'd class as crackpots or ****-bags. The majority seem like decent people who have become heavily invested emotionally in the SNP's YES we can campaign. It's worrying. Unless you share the positive view of the SNP, and buy into their fantastical view of what Scotland can become, you get shot down in a storm of hatred. It's almost like people are brainwashed. Call me paranoid but a vote for YES feels like a vote for dictatorship, not democracy.

Regardless of what happens in September, Scotland now feels like a country divided. Everytime I go to the pub or a party, I hear people debating the issue. It always ends in raised voices, bad language and people falling out.

[Mr Angry]

There is no excuse for some of the behaviours being reported.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

There is no excuse for some of the behaviours being reported.

I would have to add, to balance things out, that the couple who won the lottery and provided funds to the YES campaign took plenty of grief from Better Together supporters as well. There's something about this whole issue that has brought out the ugly side of Scotland. I'm ashamed

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Chad

I would have to add, to balance things out, that the couple who won the lottery and provided funds to the YES campaign took plenty of grief from Better Together supporters as well. There's something about this whole issue that has brought out the ugly side of Scotland. I'm ashamed

There are nasty, bitter and pathetic people in all communities. Their shortcomings are their own and don't reflect on the majority of decent fair-minded people who wouldn't dream of stooping to that level. They're the ones who should be ashamed, not you.

The Pope joins in, to give Alex Salmond a good shoeing:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ependence.html

Even God is joining in!

[Osem]

It's well known that the Pope is just a sassenach bully...

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

Even God is joining in!

That's because their cause isn't righteous...

[Osem]

Alex Salmond's office implicated in 'smear' attack on mother who spoke up for the Union

One of the First Minister's spin doctors emails the Telegraph questioning whether Claire Lally is a 'normal' mother as she is subjected to a barrage of online abuse from the so-called Cybernats

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...the-Union.html

Originally Posted by Osem

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...the-Union.html

Yes, this happened the same day JK Rowling donated a million to the No campaign, so the national news ran with JK and pretty much ignored Claire Lally. But the story still has legs here in Scotland, because Campbell Gunn, senior SpAd in Eck's office, clearly breached the civil service code that governs SpAd activities and should either have resigned, or been sacked. Neither has yet occurred.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Chris

Yes, this happened the same day JK Rowling donated a million to the No campaign, so the national news ran with JK and pretty much ignored Claire Lally. But the story still has legs here in Scotland, because Campbell Gunn, senior SpAd in Eck's office, clearly breached the civil service code that governs SpAd activities and should either have resigned, or been sacked. Neither has yet occurred.

What a surprise...

I notice Bravemouth has condemned such antics on both sides of the debate however...

[MalteseFalcon]

Joke doing the rounds in my family that Salmond has been taking lessons in elections from Mugabe. It is no secret that I am fully in favour of Scotland voting yes, maybe then they will realise just how much English taxpayers subsidise their way of life. After Scotland, can we also have a vote in Wales and Northern Ireland please?

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

Joke doing the rounds in my family that Salmond has been taking lessons in elections from Mugabe. It is no secret that I am fully in favour of Scotland voting yes, maybe then they will realise just how much English taxpayers subsidise their way of life. After Scotland, can we also have a vote in Wales and Northern Ireland please?

There doesn't appear to be any evidence that the UK subsidises Scotland tbh.

[jb66]

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

Joke doing the rounds in my family that Salmond has been taking lessons in elections from Mugabe. It is no secret that I am fully in favour of Scotland voting yes, maybe then they will realise just how much English taxpayers subsidise their way of life. After Scotland, can we also have a vote in Wales and Northern Ireland please?

If Scotland is subsidised by Engerland then why is Mr Cameron trying to keep Britain together? If Scotland is subsidised then most parties would be in favour of a split. I feel that Scotland is providing more than they consume and that's why Scotland is wanted by the goverment