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Old 21-05-2012, 00:48   #1411
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You'll get bored of your graph pretty quick on Infinity:

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Old 21-05-2012, 00:54   #1412
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That is the kind of connection we all want to see! VM are getting better in some areas (it was not too bad here until the doubling was rolled out. now it fluctuates a lot) but I can't see them coming even near to the performance of Infinity without significant investment. The upload speed alone is tempting me to Infinity.
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Old 21-05-2012, 00:56   #1413
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Why is it that BT has a graph like that compared to VM?

Agreed that the double speed stuff has affected the connection.
Mine used to never get packet loss, now since Ive been upgraded to 6 downstream channels I am getting minor packet loss
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Old 21-05-2012, 01:05   #1414
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It's simply a difference in the way the technologies work and how much capacity is provided.

Openreach provide 20mbps dedicated upstream for every customer signed up to the 20mbps upstream service (or at least, that's their target). When a FTTC modem wants to transmit data, it has its entire upstream speed guaranteed to it and can transmit whatever it wants whenever it wants, instantly, with no delay.

VM provide 20mbps of upstream shared between several hundred users. In order to ensure it's shared properly, the modem needs to request permission to transmit every time it wants to send data, and then wait for the response, then finally wait for its allocated timeslot (if any) to do the actual transmission. This process takes a lot of time, and ultimately it may not get the time it requests because there's 200kbps of capacity per user or less.
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Old 21-05-2012, 01:27   #1415
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I guess that makes sense, lol

So im guessing a lot of the limitations of VM technology are actually in the so called " last mile" from the node to the home? and from the node to the CMTS the other end or UBR.

As id imagine the optical node itself would have bandwidth available in the gigabits.

But it all comes down to how much bandwidth each docsis channel allows, which limits the actual available bandwidth compared to what a fibre link is actually capable of.

Was pondering if to get infinity as a 2nd connection sometime.. and load balance it, using inifinity for upload and VM for download.. if possible.. as Ive been looking at hardware for multiple Wan setups as VM has the upper hand on download, and infinity has the upper hand on upload.

Probably not likely to happen, or if it does probably decades time the way VM operate...but especially with BT now touting soon an offering of Fibre to the home on demand, whereby you pay an insane installation fee and they will run a fibre cable from your home to the nearest cabinet and utilise any free fibre strands id imagine, and with infinity upload speeds already above VM.

Then logically, in the future (a long time in the future lol, if it happens at all) id guess they will also come up with some kind of system to start splitting the fibre node at the cabinet and offering fibre direct to the home. At least then, they would not be lying about calling it fibre optic broadband, as currently its only Hybrid fibre coax.
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Old 21-05-2012, 07:46   #1416
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VM has the upper hand on download
Whatever gave you that idea? A higher possible headline speed doesn't of necessity mean "the upper hand". If there is insufficient upstream to ACK the downstream packet it gets re-transmitted...
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Must have missed that option

60 Mb in Leeds:

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Must have missed that option

60 Mb in Leeds:
Not too shabby

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You'll get bored of your graph pretty quick on Infinity:

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Wow,,,,,,,, just wow,,,,,,,
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Wow,,,,,,,, just wow,,,,,,,
It's more down to different technologies than anything else. The difference is of no consequence if you just want to boast to your mates how fast your connection is. Of course if you actually want to use it....
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drop at 8pm rebooting hub to change upstream channel from 1 to 2.
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It's more down to different technologies than anything else. The difference is of no consequence if you just want to boast to your mates how fast your connection is. Of course if you actually want to use it....
Agreed

Only a week till I get my fibre offering installed, if I get a graph anything like qas's I'll be a happy man. That's semi on material that is.
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Pabs its fantastic for gaming on my infinity connection.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...1-05-2012.html
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Pabs its fantastic for gaming on my infinity connection.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...1-05-2012.html
Why do you think I havent jumped into one of your lobbies

yet

I'm gettin excited tommy
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Old 21-05-2012, 21:20   #1424
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
I'm yet to see anyone with a bad BT Infinity graph, but it is subject to interleaving and MPLS as well as funky routing so there's some luck-of-the-draw involved
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Here is my latest graph



and VM said will will be September before it's fixed
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