PM Boris forms a government
28-08-2019, 18:06
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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Exactly and they will find it extremely hard to replace her in Scotland.
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There's always another to take her place, infact people will be already plotting to get the position.
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28-08-2019, 18:11
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
I think the Tories in London have written off Scotland
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28-08-2019, 18:12
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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There's always another to take her place, infact people will be already plotting to get the position.
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She improved the Conservative vote in Scotland considerably and whoever follows will very much highly struggle to do that.
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28-08-2019, 18:13
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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I think the Tories in London have written off Scotland
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Which is good news, Brexit is England's identity crisis in action.
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28-08-2019, 18:20
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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I think the Tories in London have written off Scotland
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I think the Scots have written Scotland off since sturgeon took power.
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28-08-2019, 18:28
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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I think the Scots have written Scotland off since sturgeon took power.
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They still have 13 seats in Scotland which was their best since 1983 in Scotland.
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28-08-2019, 18:31
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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Exactly and they will find it extremely hard to replace her in Scotland.
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Ummm .... no, they won’t. The Tories’ comeback in Scotland occurred much earlier than most people in Englandshire realise. Holyrood’s more-or-less proportional representation voting system has ensured they have always been a significant presence and at present they are the official opposition. There are 31 Tories in Holyrood out of 129 MSPs in total. Many of them are young and ambitious and, unlike Ruth Davidson, possibly not with a young baby in the house and grateful for the opportunity to lay some responsibilities down. In fact, on that point, she has been off on maternity leave for much of the year and in the interim Jackson Carlaw has been a very capable stand-in. He would be an able leader, as would be the shadow finance secretary, Murdo Fraser.
I wish her no ill will, incidentally; she has been great for the Tories in Scotland and great for Scotland itself, properly holding Sturgeon to account. In fact as the Scottish Tories’ best hope right now is to keep their distance from BoJo, she is doing yet another service by resigning in this way.
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28-08-2019, 18:37
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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They still have 13 seats in Scotland which was their best since 1983 in Scotland.
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they wont have any after next general election
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28-08-2019, 20:47
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The abuse of power, it's how it all ended for the Romans
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28-08-2019, 21:04
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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The abuse of power, it's how it all ended for the Romans
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28-08-2019, 21:24
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
In a bizarre coincidence it appears the people who support Brexit think this was a good idea and the people who don't think it's a bad idea.
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28-08-2019, 21:30
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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The abuse of power, it's how it all ended for the Romans
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most of us aren't old enough to remember.
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28-08-2019, 21:53
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
Actually I’m pretty sure it was syphilis that ended it for the Romans, on account of all the orgies. But hey ho.
It comes as a surprise to precisely no-one at all that public opinion on this has divided along Leave/Remain lines. This entire country’s politics are becoming as obsessed with the constitution as Scotland’s has been for a decade now.
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28-08-2019, 22:26
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So what is supposed to be the alternative of not having a "no deal"? There isn't a deal on the table, so the objective of opposing "no deal" must be "Remain". All without the niceties of Parliament being explicitly asked that question. That is abuse of power and subverting Parliament and the electorate.
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