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13-07-2019, 18:50
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
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The other chap has never called gay men bum boys and black people picaninnies! That should be enough!
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Whilst i'm at it, can I ask any Boris Johnson voter/fan why you think these statements don't instantly disqualify him from, not only any political office, but especially from being Prime Minister?!
What are the LGBTQ and non-white communities supposed to make of them apart from feeling like 'their' PM is not (at the very least) on their side?
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13-07-2019, 19:10
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
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Whilst i'm at it, can I ask any Boris Johnson voter/fan why you think these statements don't instantly disqualify him from, not only any political office, but especially from being Prime Minister?!
What are the LGBTQ and non-white communities supposed to make of them apart from feeling like 'their' PM is not (at the very least) on their side?
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Wasting your time, they . .. just .. don't ... care. They care nothing about anything apart from the holy grail of Brexit. Anyone and anything is expendable for the "cause" .. They will support anyone, the Devil included, if it means they get what they want.
The thing they do not realise is that they are sowing the seeds for a future that will be far from the sunlit uplands they crave.
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13-07-2019, 19:19
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
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Wasting your time, they . .. just .. don't ... care. They care nothing about anything apart from the holy grail of Brexit. Anyone and anything is expendable for the "cause" .. They will support anyone, the Devil included, if it means they get what they want.
The thing they do not realise is that they are sowing the seeds for a future that will be far from the sunlit uplands they crave.
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Realy? how come you've never mentioned that before.
Much.
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13-07-2019, 19:25
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
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Realy? how come you've never mentioned that before.
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See, no attempt to answer Mobes question.
Go on, answer his/her question .. go on, go on ..
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13-07-2019, 19:31
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
I presumed they would not answer as any decent person could not justify Johnson’s words!
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13-07-2019, 20:29
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
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I presumed they would not answer as any decent person could not justify Johnson’s words!
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It is for Boris himself to justify his words. This is just a petty diversion from the big issues. If people are genuinely offended or outraged by these comments, they won't vote for him, will they?
I guess we'll find out at the next election!
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13-07-2019, 20:33
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
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It is for Boris himself to justify his words. This is just a petty diversion from the big issues. If people are genuinely offended or outraged by these comments, they won't vote for him, will they?
I guess we'll find out at the next election!
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There is nothing petty about his comments aimed at certain groups l can assure you as they were comments unbecoming of any future prime minister.
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13-07-2019, 20:41
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
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It is for Boris himself to justify his words. This is just a petty diversion from the big issues. If people are genuinely offended or outraged by these comments, they won't vote for him, will they?
I guess we'll find out at the next election!
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And it’s up to you to personally be able to justify why his words don’t matter to you! However, the fact you call them ‘petty’ probably tell us all we need to know!
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13-07-2019, 20:49
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
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And it’s up to you to personally be able to justify why his words don’t matter to you! However, the fact you call them ‘petty’ probably tell us all we need to know!
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Well, any 'person of colour' can call me a pinkskin anytime they like. Will I be offended?
Highly unlikely.
Boris can be unintentionally insensitive it is true, but we are all getting so hypersensitive these days. If you seriously believe him to be racist or homophobic, you will be way off beam. A person's actions are more important than the words we use.
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13-07-2019, 20:57
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The fact you believe being called ‘pinkskin’ (Something you made up) is akin to the word picaninny is beyond abhorrent! Go and Google what picanniny means and how it was used! In fact go and ask a black man if he thinks he’s hypersensitive when you use it to his face!
The trouble with racists Mod Edit - inappropriate comment removed is they would happily use these words in company they feel comfortable in or behind the safety of a keyboard but wouldn’t use them in front of a gay man or black man.
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13-07-2019, 21:21
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
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The fact you believe being called ‘pinkskin’ (Something you made up) is akin to the word picaninny is beyond abhorrent! Go and Google what picanniny means and how it was used! In fact go and ask a black man if he thinks he’s hypersensitive when you use it to his face!
The trouble with racists Mod Edit - inappropriate comment removed is they would happily use these words in company they feel comfortable in or behind the safety of a keyboard but wouldn’t use them in front of a gay man or black man.
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And yet they will readily watch the TV show Atlanta. Series 2 starts on BBC2 tonight.
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13-07-2019, 21:22
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Are you in it? Shameless plug lol
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13-07-2019, 22:19
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
Everyone need to calm down, and stop calling others names.
Repetition of this behaviour will invoke the infraction system.
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Well, any 'person of colour' can call me a pinkskin anytime they like. Will I be offended?
Highly unlikely.
Boris can be unintentionally insensitive it is true, but we are all getting so hypersensitive these days. If you seriously believe him to be racist or homophobic, you will be way off beam. A person's actions are more important than the words we use.
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Well, since "pinkskin" has not been used as a term of abuse by racists and bigots for a couple of centuries, probably not.
The fact you try to equate a made up term with a term that has been used as an insult by white people to black people for a very long time shows that you either don’t understand, or don’t want to understand - either is rather sad...
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13-07-2019, 22:20
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13-07-2019, 22:56
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Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
Does using a non-pc term or descriptor make you racist? In general terms.
Johnson has used some questionable language on occasion, the piccaninnie thing was 11 years ago.
The bum boy comment was 21 years ago.
Lots of people, even Prime Minister candidates, say the wrong things sometimes and there is always somebody just ready and waiting to be offended.
I’m not racism or anti LGBTQ+(Add whatever letter you want) but I have made questionable remarks in the past. I’m not proud of it but i’m Human, and I can guarantee that coloured people ( sorry can’t say that ) I meant people of colour, and people on the Gender spectrum ( as that seems to be what it is) are all not nice or PC either.
So can BoJo be PM although over the past 30 years he’s Made the odd PC gaffe? Of course he can don’t be such a muppet.
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