UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I was only aware of it at midnight last night and didn't have time to research the voracity of the claims. Not that it's mine or anyone's responsibility here to fact check these things. Thanks for clarifying the situation in Germany.

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Trading blocs with a single market can't strike side deals as the single market would cease to be um, a single market.

You mean like treating NI differently would be breaking the UK single market?
From NI protocol.

RECALLING that Northern Ireland is part of the customs territory of the United Kingdom and will benefit from participation in the United Kingdom's independent trade policy,
HAVING REGARD to the importance of maintaining the integral place of Northern Ireland in the United Kingdom’s internal market,

All this is simply because the EU insist on bullying us to sign up to THEIR version of a deal.

[jfman]

The EU plan gives Northern Ireland the best of both worlds in terms of trade. A break that one of the weakest performing economic areas of the UK could do with.

Unfortunately, the lack of self awareness in England doesn’t realise this is going to drive Irish unification. You couldn’t manufacture a better position for the Republicans to work from than a Brexit that sacrifices the peace process.

I give it ten years, maximum. Coupled with Scottish independence England will finally be a great nation once again.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

The EU plan gives Northern Ireland the best of both worlds in terms of trade. A break that one of the weakest performing economic areas of the UK could do with.

Unfortunately, the lack of self awareness in England doesn’t realise this is going to drive Irish unification. You couldn’t manufacture a better position for the Republicans to work from than a Brexit that sacrifices the peace process.

I give it ten years, maximum. Coupled with Scottish independence England will finally be a great nation once again.

.. and the envy certainly of Scotland (under their breath).

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

.. and the envy certainly of Scotland (under their breath).

That's not very aspirational, Seph.
Weren't we going to become some sort of global world-beating powerhouse?With free trade deals stretching from China and India to Mexico and Canada. With the EU pleading daily to give them a free trade deal whilst we told them to politely get in the queue after Latvia?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

.. and the envy certainly of Scotland (under their breath).

Hadrian's wall will be rebuilt, by the Scottish this time to stop the immigrants....

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That's not very aspirational, Seph.
Weren't we going to become some sort of global world-beating powerhouse?With free trade deals stretching from China and India to Mexico and Canada. With the EU pleading daily to give them a free trade deal whilst we told them to politely get in the queue after Latvia?

Correct.

But relative to Scotland, we will.

As to your sarcasm ... funny though.

[jfman]

As long as we go up in the world happiness report. Like Sweden and places like that.

[1andrew1]

Another resignation, this time from the UK’s special envoy on media freedom over the Government’s “lamentable” suggestion it could violate international law over the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/a...-a4550906.html

[nomadking]

When will people finally get it. The NI Protocol is flimsy on so many if the details eg supermarket distribution, sending of parcels from GB to NI. It boils down to what the EU will allow us to do. How is that an ok situation?
These are the sorts of things the EU has yet to tell us what we must do. Is anybody still under the ridiculous impression that the EU is into negotiated reasonable agreements as far as the UK is concerned? There has to be a way of avoiding the EU from blocking all these things. The bill is simply to enable a decision to actually be made where the Joint Committee HASN'T reached one itself, not to override something that might have been agreed.
Link

4.2 Tariffs
The UK Government has been clear that there should be no tariffs on internal UK trade; and that in any case, full use will be made of waivers and reimbursements to minimise the impact on business in any scenario. The Protocol sets out that there must be a UK-EU Joint Committee decision on the application of tariffs to ‘at risk’ goods moving into Northern Ireland, and that decision will inform the final regime that applies. Full details will therefore be provided subsequent to that decision.
4.3 Simplifications and facilitations
It is recognised that this system of facilitations will need to take account of the regime that will apply for the application of tariffs to ‘at risk’ goods moving from Great Britain to Northern Ireland. As such, further guidance may be provided following the UK-EU Joint Committee decision in that regard. In the meantime, further information on these and other facilitations available is on gov.uk.
4.4 Transit
Recognising the importance of that route for goods movements, specific discussions are ongoing as to the transit requirements for that trade.
4.6 Non-freight
Any requirements for goods in luggage, Royal Mail and parcels are still under consideration. Further guidance will be set out in due course.
...
4.7 VAT and Excise
As this is subject to ongoing consultation and discussion, further guidance will be set out on the application of VAT and excise rules for goods in Northern Ireland in due course.
5. Great Britain to Northern Ireland: sanitary and phytosanitary (SPS) goods
Specifically, the UK Government recognises the unique position of authorised traders, such as supermarkets, with stable supply chains, and comprehensive oversight of warehousing and distribution operations, moving pre-packaged products for retail sale solely in Northern Ireland. We are continuing to pursue specific solutions for this trade, and this guidance does not therefore apply to this trade.
5.1 SPS goods: common requirements
There will be a series of common requirements that will apply to typical movements of agri-food products from Great Britain to Northern Ireland from 1 January 2021 (subject to the outcome of discussions about the process and frequency of controls). These are as follows:
7.1 Products of Animal Origin (POAO)
Establishments moving POAO from Great Britain to Northern Ireland will additionally need to be approved in line with food hygiene regulations, either by the relevant local authority or by the Food Standards Agency (or Food Standards Scotland) depending on the nature of the production they are undertaking. More information is available on approved food establishments. These establishments will also need to be listed by the EU.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Another resignation, this time from the UK’s special envoy on media freedom over the Government’s “lamentable” suggestion it could violate international law over the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/a...-a4550906.html

Yet more evidence the bill is the right thing to do.

[Carth]

Wonder who's next to resign?

The special envoy for painting the black bits at zebra crossings?
The chap in charge of placing speed cameras behind overgrown bushes?
The nice lady responsible for ensuring CCTV cameras are actually working?

I've no idea what they think they gain by resigning, their place will simply be taken by someone who won't complain . . . talk about weakening the argument

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Carth

Wonder who's next to resign?

The special envoy for painting the black bits at zebra crossings?
The chap in charge of placing speed cameras behind overgrown bushes?
The nice lady responsible for ensuring CCTV cameras are actually working?

I've no idea what they think they gain by resigning, their place will simply be taken by someone who won't complain . . . talk about weakening the argument

I'm still trying to figure out what a "Special Envoy on Media Freedom" needs to do other than collect taxpayer funded wages at the end of each month, resign and keep his taxpayer gold plated pension.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

I'm still trying to figure out what a "Special Envoy on Media Freedom" needs to do other than collect taxpayer funded wages at the end of each month, resign and keep his taxpayer gold plated pension.

The article explains the role which Amal Clooney used to perform until her resignation. I suspect she's not as bothered about a "taxpayer gold plated pension" as you suggest though.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The article explains the role which Amal Clooney used to perform until her resignation. I suspect she's not as bothered about a "taxpayer gold plated pension" as you suggest though.

Yeh, OK then. A non-job!

Ms Clooney said her role was intended to help promote action that governments could take to ensure that media freedom around the world was enforced in accordance with international law.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Yeh, OK then. A non-job!

Certainly not a position that would cause massive waves by resigning from it . . . but enough of a 'married to a celebrity' status to get media interest for a headline

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Carth

Wonder who's next to resign?

The special envoy for painting the black bits at zebra crossings?
The chap in charge of placing speed cameras behind overgrown bushes?
The nice lady responsible for ensuring CCTV cameras are actually working?

I've no idea what they think they gain by resigning, their place will simply be taken by someone who won't complain . . . talk about weakening the argument

Consultancy for the Liberal Democrat 2024 campaign? If old enough claim "gold plated" pension now and go 'private sector'.