*ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please. (Part 2) - Page 12

orangebird · 21-04-2005, 11:31

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Originally Posted by Monster Jedi

Well forever is a very long time. I have not been around that long nor has anyone else to my Knowledge. If NTL was fed up with me now. I would no longer be with them.

Why do people justify paying more money to companys. Especially when they don't work for the company and they don't get anything out of it. It won't help you keep your job. Everyone is replaceable. It's no wonder there's poverty and debt in this country. It's about time to grow up people

That must be the most amusing post I have read in a long time on here....

So, by you paying less and taking more, that'll get rid of poverty will it?

And grow up? I suggest you pratice exactly what you preach.

Monster Jedi · 21-04-2005, 11:46

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Originally Posted by orangebird

That must be the most amusing post I have read in a long time on here....

So, by you paying less and taking more, that'll get rid of poverty will it?

And grow up? I suggest you pratice exactly what you preach.

The poverty bit is about how high it is in this country to live here. Why should you have pay for something that was free before??. And as for the

bit. heres one for just for you

Stuart · 21-04-2005, 11:46

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Originally Posted by Monster Jedi

Why do people justify paying more money to companys. Especially when they don't work for the company and they don't get anything out of it. It won't help you keep your job. Everyone is replaceable. It's no wonder there's poverty and debt in this country. It's about time to grow up people

Who has justified paying more to NTL? I personally wouldn't go around saying "I'm not paying enough for my broadband! I demand to pay more". I may wonder from time to time how much profit NTL are making out of me, but I certainly wouldn't complain if it's not enough.

If you are referring to the Caps, then, where I have attempted to "justify" the caps, it is simply to point out that NTL has bandwidth problems at some UBRs. As far as I can see, the Caps are an attempt to alleviate those problems without spending money on major upgrades just to keep one or two users happy (after all, NTL is a business - they will not spend ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£000's of pounds just to keep one or two customers that pay ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£34.99 a month happy). BTW, I don't defend NTL because I think that I (or anyone else I know) will gain anything from it, but if I can see why they are doing something, I will point that out.

Not sure I understand your comments about poverty. Broadband *is* expensive in this country, but TBH anyone who is really poor is unlikely to even have a PC, let alone use broadband.

orangebird · 21-04-2005, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Monster Jedi

The poverty bit is about how high it is in this country to live here. Why should you have pay for something that was free before??. And as for the

bit. heres one for just for you

ntl have NEVER given BB away for free. All they've done is increase you're speeds (in some cases by 300%) for FREE. And you still whinge.

Monster Jedi · 21-04-2005, 13:56

Not sure I understand your comments about poverty. Broadband *is* expensive in this country, but TBH anyone who is really poor is unlikely to even have a PC, let alone use broadband. Quote Scastle

What is ment by that is price hikes. Not enough money comming in. When your expendicture is more. When you can afford something then you when the price increases. I know a few people on the poverty line. i have done them a pc for there kids to be educated on nothing special. A p3 800 ect Monitor keyboard mouse ect. I charge 20 quid for the system . I buy them at car boot sales. I buy a few base units then make a decient one. It helps the kids out and keeps them off the streets. It helps towards their education. The government should be helping these families. But I'm a softie at heart.

ian@huth · 21-04-2005, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Monster Jedi

Not sure I understand your comments about poverty. Broadband *is* expensive in this country, but TBH anyone who is really poor is unlikely to even have a PC, let alone use broadband. Quote Scastle

What is ment by that is price hikes. Not enough money comming in. When your expendicture is more. When you can afford something then you when the price increases. I know a few people on the poverty line. i have done them a pc for there kids to be educated on nothing special. A p3 800 ect Monitor keyboard mouse ect. I charge 20 quid for the system . I buy them at car boot sales. I buy a few base units then make a decient one. It helps the kids out and keeps them off the streets. It helps towards their education. The government should be helping these families. But I'm a softie at heart.

Good on you Monster. Hope that them having Linux on isn't a problem.

Monster Jedi · 21-04-2005, 15:16

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Originally Posted by ian@huth

Good on you Monster. Hope that them having Linux on isn't a problem.

Power to da penguine

Stuart · 21-04-2005, 15:21

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Originally Posted by ian@huth

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Originally Posted by Monster Jedi

Not sure I understand your comments about poverty. Broadband *is* expensive in this country, but TBH anyone who is really poor is unlikely to even have a PC, let alone use broadband. Quote Scastle

What is ment by that is price hikes. Not enough money comming in. When your expendicture is more. When you can afford something then you when the price increases. I know a few people on the poverty line. i have done them a pc for there kids to be educated on nothing special. A p3 800 ect Monitor keyboard mouse ect. I charge 20 quid for the system . I buy them at car boot sales. I buy a few base units then make a decient one. It helps the kids out and keeps them off the streets. It helps towards their education. The government should be helping these families. But I'm a softie at heart.

Good on you Monster. Hope that them having Linux on isn't a problem.

Good man!

dragon · 21-04-2005, 18:58

sorry but i dont want to read the whole thread can someone summerise what the latest on the caps are

will it be 1gb/day on 2mb/3mbit? or will it be 30gb a month (as in you get 30gb for the month but it doesnt matter if u use 3gb somedays but only 10mb others)

also how strictly will it be enforced?
and when is it happening.

helios · 21-04-2005, 21:14

ok, I have been talking to an NTL person lately and according to their official internal releases, the usage cap merely drops you down to the old speed (750K/1.5mb) for the rest of the 24hr period when you go over the 1gb per day on the 2mb/3mb service, or to 300K for the rest of the month on the 1mb service if you go over 3gb

Ignition · 21-04-2005, 21:37

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Originally Posted by helios

ok, I have been talking to an NTL person lately and according to their official internal releases, the usage cap merely drops you down to the old speed (750K/1.5mb) for the rest of the 24hr period when you go over the 1gb per day on the 2mb/3mb service, or to 300K for the rest of the month on the 1mb service if you go over 3gb

Bullsh*t to be blunt.

dragon · 21-04-2005, 22:04

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Originally Posted by helios

ok, I have been talking to an NTL person lately and according to their official internal releases, the usage cap merely drops you down to the old speed (750K/1.5mb) for the rest of the 24hr period when you go over the 1gb per day on the 2mb/3mb service, or to 300K for the rest of the month on the 1mb service if you go over 3gb

wouldnt be to bad if true...

dirtydog · 22-04-2005, 08:07

I see the sanctimonious cap lovers are still predominant in this thread

22-04-2005, 08:13

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

I see the sanctimonious cap lovers are still predominant in this thread

I see the sanctimonious cap haters are still predominant in this thread

helios · 22-04-2005, 08:32

i hate the prospect of caps BUT it may be that they are not as be as bad first thought.

If this is the case with these caps, i am gonna be a hell of a lot happier, but not as happy as if the service was uncapped.

Ignition · 22-04-2005, 11:24

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Originally Posted by helios

If this is the case with these caps

It isn't.

-=BULLDOGG=- · 22-04-2005, 11:38

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Originally Posted by helios

ok, I have been talking to an NTL person lately and according to their official internal releases, the usage cap merely drops you down to the old speed (750K/1.5mb) for the rest of the 24hr period when you go over the 1gb per day on the 2mb/3mb service, or to 300K for the rest of the month on the 1mb service if you go over 3gb

well this dont sound too bad i will stop my moaning if this is true i can live pretty comfortably with that

cheers m8

**Chris** · 22-04-2005, 11:40

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Originally Posted by -=BULLDOGG=-

well this dont sound too bad i will stop my moaning if this is true i can live pretty comfortably with that

cheers m8

check out Ignition's post above. Ignition is an NTL tech. He says this is completely untrue.

Neil · 22-04-2005, 12:26

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Originally Posted by -=BULLDOGG=-

i will stop my moaning if this is true

It isn't.

Griffin · 22-04-2005, 18:20

Well going by the backlash that Plus net are getting from there users over changing the rules & all the complaing about caps on here it looks like ukonline
with their price cuts & still uncapped service are on to a winner. down side is its only available in small areas at present but its obvious these areas will increase. i for one will be joining them when they get to my area