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Old 03-02-2005, 12:45   #46
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But they do and even if they didn't people will soon start leaving if/when it becomes a regular problem.
Not automatically, like BT do. If you want to get a refund from NTL you have to beg them and probably threaten to leave... and then you only get a customer courtesy credit to your account and not a refund.
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Old 03-02-2005, 12:54   #48
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Re: For Sale

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Not automatically, like BT do. If you want to get a refund from NTL you have to beg them and probably threaten to leave... and then you only get a customer courtesy credit to your account and not a refund.
That's not the case-BT have a written charter regarding refunds, & you don't need to beg at all, it's even in writing on their website.

http://www.bt.com/customerservices/c...=our_guarantee

Please tell me where ntl's is (I'll save you the job-they don't have one, & you certainly have to beg ntl to get any form of refund/compensation)

[Edit]-Sorry-totally mis-read what you posted!

We're both saying the same thing....
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Re: ntl budget cutbacks

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bet it was Mr Goodland
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Re: ntl budget cutbacks

I've been passed this from an annonymous source....
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The announcement yesterday could be read as no overtime no upgrades. In ntls defence thats not strictly true.

It seem's that the reason behind the announcement is an admin screw up by COBI.
Traditionally all service affecting upgrades are done between 01:00 and 06:00 therefore on overtime.
Recent changes to the way ntl is structured mean that the regional engineers who belong to COBI are effectively contractors to ntl who only have a budget for maintenance, with all money for new services and service upgrades coming from the other groups within ntl.

The problem would appear to be that when COBI was first formed it didn't put the procedures for recapturing those costs into place fast enough. TBH thats not just the managers fault but also partly the engineers because hours worked on projects were not correctly booked to them.

This has meant that some projects have been brought in under cost, closed, project managers given a slap on the back and the savings assigned to the next project.

When COBI eventually presented their "bill" to ntl they were told sorry, that projects closed and the monies spent on something else.
Now at the end of the year it would appear they've run out of money and rather than ntl management be sensible and bail them out they appear to been told your screw up you sort it, hence the ridiculous and draconian decisions announced yesterday.

It does mean though that upgrade work already funded should still go ahead.

As an aside to this, the failure to book work correctly also seems to be partly how managers were able to justify the last round of redundancies in the local networks teams, although the guys were working all day, everyday, a lot of that work was being under reported which meant the figures for work completed said they were had more bodies than were needed to do that work.

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Re: ntl budget cutbacks

There's a job going as "Head of Network Evolution".....

http://www.totaljobs.com/jobseekers/...605%2C14409076

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1. Responsibility for detailed network evolution proposals in line with overall strategy in collaboration with business units, network economists, product architects and proof of concept test team
2. Provide in depth analysis in response to technical and market opportunities and to identify recommendations for changes to the overall strategy and proposals for detailed network evolution activities
3. To stay current on relevant technologies, market and regulatory events and to provide concise briefings to the wider team.
4. To maintain a rich network of connections across the industry in order to assess future directions and trends.
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Re: For Sale

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[Edit]-Sorry-totally mis-read what you posted!

We're both saying the same thing....
That is OK Neil!

Thanks for backing me up with some written evidence.
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Re: ntl budget cutbacks

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There's a job going as "Head of Network Evolution".....

http://www.totaljobs.com/jobseekers/...605%2C14409076
Are you applying
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Haha - The "Salary" line is left blank
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Re: ntl budget cutbacks

Today BT announce they are reducing broadband wholesale charges and increasing speeds where possible. More pressure on NTL while NTL are cutting costs like mad.

oh dear!
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Re: ntl budget cutbacks

I wouldn't get too carried away with what seems at first glance to be the death knell for NTL. Don't forget that the bondholders have an immense amount of finance invested in the company and will not sit calmly back and watch it all go down the drain. NTLI shares are trading at just under $69 and rising. Reuters give it a very low risk grade http://investing.reuters.co.uk/Stock...boutRiskGrades
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Re: ntl budget cutbacks

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Don't forget that the bondholders have an immense amount of finance invested in the company and will not sit calmly back and watch it all go down the drain.
No but they will cut everything they can from the company and leave it limping along barely able to function before selling it off to the highest bidder.
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Re: ntl budget cutbacks

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Could this be what the £25.00 per head on the speed upgrade is going
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Re: ntl budget cutbacks

Shareholders wont give a rats ass if ntl go down (the major ones who are rich) like all failing companies they will pull out just before it crashes leaving it without a spine. Out of interest say someone who owns 10% of ntl how much would they have pocketed from that division NTL sold recently?
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