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If two or more people pass each other and their apps have stopped broadcasting, the software will never know they came in contact
AIUI, it is only designed to register as a contact if they have been in close proximity for 15 minutes anyway. (I'd love to understand the rationale for this)
That means that unless people have the NHS app running in the foreground and their phones awake most of the time, the fundamental principle underpinning the entire system – that phones detect each other – won’t work.
What's annoying is anyone who knows the basics of how iOS and Android operate where stating this from the start. Ministers seem to think sheer willpower or words at a press conference can overcome technical limitations. It doesn't matter how much we collectively believe in the Government, it won't work in the background.
Apple and Google knew this too which is why they've preempted the issue by providing their own APIs that do what's required without allowing anyone to use it to track you or to store data about users in a centralised database. Understandably either company is warm to the idea of a Government exemption to the security measures their devices take against applications on their platforms.
This app is shaping up to be another disaster in the making and one which they'll claim, several weeks from now, couldn't be foreseen and they'll blame Apple and Google for not giving them the access they need. Much like the encryption debate political journalists won't understand the issue at a technical level and will present it in those terms.
I don't know why they continue to push down this path. If they want it work they need to adopt the APIs that work.
Anyway let's all come back to this in a few weeks when the debate moves to how could the Government possibly know the app had this flaw.
BREAKING: Coronavirus: Rival states targeted UK and U.S coronavirus labs with 'malicious cyber campaigns'
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The UK and the US have exposed "malicious cyber campaigns" by rival states against universities, pharmaceutical companies and other healthcare organisations involved in the coronavirus response.
Laboratories doing research on COVID-19 vaccines are also among those being targeted.
The joint alert does not name countries behind the attacks, but they are understood to include China, Russia and Iran, as well as others.
There has not been a known successful attack on a UK institute.
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Originally Posted by Russ
The government may well be “acting” on the advice of the scientists, that does not necessarily mean they are doing as the scientists say. The difference is in the clever wording.
I’m not saying they’re ignoring scientists but there’s no doubt this government (as likely with any) is “following” whatever advice makes them look like they’ve been “successful”.
A view that may not be supported by the facts.
The advice ministers have been given by the scientists has now been published.
I think you're indulging in a little clever wording of your own, and tying yourself in semantic knots.
Not in the slightest. I don’t doubt they’re taking on board what their scientists are saying but I haven’t seen anything yet that shows they’re following to the word everything that they’re being told. And Boris claiming anything they’ve done in terms of a response to the outbreak being a “success” tells us that it all comes with a nice little Tory spin.
I would hope that the relevant networks are suitably air gapped and suitable restrictions in place.
Certainly, pharmaceutical manufacturing systems are very well protected with air gaps, hardware firewalls, etc. Stuxnet back in 2010 put a huge rocket up the industry and its' security systems. The company I work for offered a system where we could remote log in to manufacturing hardware for remote diagnostics and the answer from the industry was a unanimous 'nope'.
Not in the slightest. I don’t doubt they’re taking on board what their scientists are saying but I haven’t seen anything yet that shows they’re following to the word everything that they’re being told. And Boris claiming anything they’ve done in terms of a response to the outbreak being a “success” tells us that it all comes with a nice little Tory spin.
The country's best genetic scientists analysed the genomes of the virus in 260 patients with the disease in all corners of the UK.
They say they have identified 12 unique mutations, one of which has only ever been found in Britain - meaning it evolved on home soil.
But the COVID-19 Genomics UK Consortium (COG-UK) said the number of strains 'is very likely substantially higher' due to under-sampling in the UK.
The scientists say most of the strains were imported from Italy and Spain - which were the worst-hit countries in the world at the time of the research in March.
There is no suggestion that any of the strains are more potent or infectious than another.