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Old 30-03-2020, 17:31   #1531
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And yet up to 28,000 die in a year in the UK from seasonal influenza and we hear very little about that. We have a way to go before we reach that figure.

https://fullfact.org/health/coronavi...are-influenza/

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Where are all these driverless trains when you need them?

Actually, I thought I read that Sadiq Khan had ordered that fewer trains should run to reflect the message that people should stay at home. Seemed like a good idea to him at the time..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...adiq-Khan.html
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Old 30-03-2020, 17:33   #1532
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It's not irrelevant. Longer distances mean more visits to the petrol station needed. It could mean a higher percentage of a breakdown or accident. Unless their was no other way of getting food to them, it wasn't essential.

Doesn't matter if its irrelevant to you. Too many people are not following guidelines, something you just posted about in the very next post with the video of the train/tube. A simple question and check is the least of people's worries at this moment in time when essential trips are all that should be took, which some people aren't adhering too. What harm came to you or your brother or anyone else?
I know what matters to me thanks and I stand by my views that the police were wrong. My brother was doing an essential trip, he didn't need to be checked like some potential criminal would be. It was over zealous policing-end of.

Anyway - the police have been given a slap down by No. 10 this afternoon, because police told shops Easter eggs are not essential goods.

According to the PM's spokesman: "If a shop is allowed to remain open it will sell whatever items it has in stock.”

Police being told by No. 10 to wind their neck in a bit.

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Old 30-03-2020, 17:34   #1533
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Or maybe the London Mayor could relent and put more tube trains on to address the overcrowding.
Probably to late the damage has been done,you can't un catch it.
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Old 30-03-2020, 17:43   #1534
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I know what matters to me thanks and I stand by my views that they were wrong. My brother was doing an essential trip, he didn't need to be checked like some potential criminal would be. It was over zealous policing-end of.

Anyway - the police have been given a slap down by No. 10 this afternoon, because police told shops Easter eggs are not essential goods.

According to the PM's spokesman: "If a shop is allowed to remain open it will sell whatever items it has in stock.”

Police being told by No. 10 to wind their neck in a bit.

Good.
Your brother knew what he was doing, the Police didn't. That's how these things work. I'm not so sure why the outrage of them trying to do a difficult job and just making sure what he was saying was true. Yet the very next post you made was about people on the tube/train which you didn't know how many were making essential trips and that more should be done. Just as the Police were doing more to make sure your brother was correct in what he was saying. These are temporary measures set up for the benefit of us all.

I'd hope the police would fine someone for going to the shop just to buy an easter egg.
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Old 30-03-2020, 17:57   #1535
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Your brother knew what he was doing, the Police didn't. That's how these things work. I'm not so sure why the outrage of them trying to do a difficult job and just making sure what he was saying was true. Yet the very next post you made was about people on the tube/train which you didn't know how many were making essential trips and that more should be done. Just as the Police were doing more to make sure your brother was correct in what he was saying. These are temporary measures set up for the benefit of us all.

I'd hope the police would fine someone for going to the shop just to buy an easter egg.
"Just" is the key word. If they were also picking up essentials, then it shouldn't be too much of a problem. If I'm walking around Tescos to do an essential shop, I shouldn't be prevented from picking up something less essential at the same time.
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Your brother knew what he was doing, the Police didn't. That's how these things work.
You still carrying this on?

That's fine... I'll still keep telling you the same thing, eventually you might just get it and move on!....

....they were told what he was doing when he was asked, what followed should not have happened-period. So stop arguing with me on it, my view remains they were wrong and you will not change it!

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Yet the very next post you made was about people on the tube/train which you didn't know how many were making essential trips and that more should be done. Just as the Police were doing more to make sure your brother was correct in what he was saying. These are temporary measures set up for the benefit of us all.
WTF has that got to do with Police conduct?

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I'd hope the police would fine someone for going to the shop just to buy an easter egg.
That's not what happened, now you're just inventing shit up for the sake of arguing. Here's the thing.... Stop arguing!
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"Just" is the key word. If they were also picking up essentials, then it shouldn't be too much of a problem. If I'm walking around Tescos to do an essential shop, I shouldn't be prevented from picking up something less essential at the same time.
It definitely is the key word.

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You still carrying this on?

That's fine... I'll still keep telling you the same thing, eventually you might just get it and move on!....

....they were told what he was doing when he was asked, what followed should not have happened-period. So stop arguing with me on it, my view remains they were wrong and you will not change it!



WTF has that got to do with Police conduct?



That's not what happened, now you're just inventing shit up for the sake of arguing. Here's the thing.... Stop arguing!
Move on from what. The police did nothing wrong. They weren't to know your brother was telling the truth or not. Policing cant work on well I hope hes telling the truth.

My view is they weren't wrong. Stale mate then yeah? No need to be condescending about it. It's a friendly discussion forum.

I never said that did happen. I said I hope the police fine someone for just buying an easter egg as it isn't essential.
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Old 30-03-2020, 18:06   #1538
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It definitely is the key word.

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Move on from what. The police did nothing wrong. They weren't to know your brother was telling the truth or not. Policing cant work on well I hope hes telling the truth.

My view is they weren't wrong. Stale mate then yeah? No need to be condescending about it. It's a friendly discussion forum.

I never said that did happen. I said I hope the police fine someone for just buying an easter egg as it isn't essential.
Best to just leave certain people on here to it.
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Old 30-03-2020, 18:08   #1539
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Best to just leave certain people on here to it.
And there will be no more snide remarks from you either.
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And there will be no more snide remarks from you either.
Sorry Mick. Whatever you say.
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Re: Coronavirus

Enough, all of you move on.

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Broadband Caps have been removed ;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52091359

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There is also a slight fall in the death rate ;

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...... had deaths continued to grow at that recent daily rate of roughly a third a day, we might have expected to see 350 new deaths on Sunday and 450 today.

Instead, we've seen slight falls: 260 deaths on Saturday, 209 on Sunday and a further fall to 180 today.
This could just be a weekend blip, or it could be a sign of things improving, atm, no one knows.
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Old 30-03-2020, 18:41   #1542
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As has been pointed out, more than once, it’s only been about four weeks. With estimates of 250 000 or more deaths based on the flawed herd immunity strategy you are (for your own convenience) ignoring the efforts being made to tackle Coronavirus and stop the spread.

You’re also forgetting the political, and economic, cost of thousands dying in hospital corridors in entirely preventable deaths.[COLOR="Silver"]
I don't believe that estimate for one minute. We are likely to experience the peak in two to three weeks, so how people can believe that kind of figure amazes me. There are only 35,000 deaths worldwide at this point, so it's worth getting this in proportion.
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Going to essential work is allowed. That’s not my issue. We’re being nannied in to staying at home by the Police to prevent the spread of this virus. Yet at tube and train stations. Crowds of people huddled together and packed in to cabins like sardines, I also don’t blame the workers. There should be some adequate separation techniques being implemented like we’re seeing at supermarkets.
When was that rule changed, thought you could go to work as long as you couldn't do it from home
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When was that rule changed, thought you could go to work as long as you couldn't do it from home
If work is not classed as essential you can't go to work, i thought that was the rule?

My work is classed as essential and critical as i make industrial digital printing heads and these get used by food, medical supplies etc

A hairdressers isn't classed as essential so they can't go to work, im not even sure if a self employed hairdresser can work from home?
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When was that rule changed, thought you could go to work as long as you couldn't do it from home
Only essential work:-
  • Health and social care
    All NHS staff, including administrative and cleaning workers. Frontline health and social care staff such as doctors, nurses, midwives, paramedics, plus support and specialist staff in the health and social care sector.

    In addition it includes those working in supply chains including producers and distributors of medicines and personal protective equipment.
  • Education and childcare
    Nursery, teachers – including teaching assistants – and social workers.
  • Food and other necessary goods
    Food chain workers, including those involved in production, processing, distribution, sale and delivery of goods.
  • Key public services
    Postal workers, those required to run the justice system, religious staff, and those responsible for managing the deceased, and journalists providing public service broadcasting.
  • Local and national government
    Local and national government workers in admin roles “essential to the effective delivery” of the Covid-19 response or delivering essential public services, including payment of benefits.
  • Utility workers
    Staff needed to keep oil, gas, electricity, water and sewerage operations running. Staff in the civil nuclear, chemical and telecommunications sectors. Those in postal services and those working to provide essential financial services.
  • Public safety and national security
    Police and support staff, Ministry of Defence civilian staff and armed forces personnel, fire and rescue staff, and workers responsible for border security, prisons and probation.
  • Transport
    Those keeping air, water, road, and rail passenger and freight transport modes operating.
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