4K : 360 set top box

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Probably, seeing I and many others still have an old Tivo box, never mind a V6. Very fond of it too, works very well in combination with a V6 and has other extra output benefits.

An 'upgrade' doesn't always mean better. People get too dazzled by that word. There's usually pros and cons. With the 360 there seems to be more cons.

Crikey l am agreeing with you twice this morning Mr K.

[tweetiepooh]

(Any one ready from VM close your eyes you've seen this already).


Our only TV is a Sony CRT with SCART inputs hence we like to keep our standard TiVo. We have a convertor but it only does SCART composite so picture quality isn't very good. The FireStick lets me fine tune the picture so it fits nicely but the V6 has bits all chopped off. We also have lots of recordings that we don't want to lose and many,many series links. We use the HD in both TiVo and V6 and can watch recording on either from either (normally from the V6 on the TiVo) so have 1.5TB storage (shame the 1TB TiVo failed).


I'm not going to get a new TV until the current one stops and one problem is that the smaller screen new TV's aren't that good. Currently we have 28" and really that is plenty, maybe 32" since flat panels have less around them. The guides talks about size to viewing distance - my wife is often maybe around 1m from screen, I'm about 3-4m on sofa as furthest usual distance but could be 8m at sharp angle if watching from dining table (only for live rugby).

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

(Any one ready from VM close your eyes you've seen this already).


Our only TV is a Sony CRT with SCART inputs hence we like to keep our standard TiVo. We have a convertor but it only does SCART composite so picture quality isn't very good. The FireStick lets me fine tune the picture so it fits nicely but the V6 has bits all chopped off. We also have lots of recordings that we don't want to lose and many,many series links. We use the HD in both TiVo and V6 and can watch recording on either from either (normally from the V6 on the TiVo) so have 1.5TB storage (shame the 1TB TiVo failed).


I'm not going to get a new TV until the current one stops and one problem is that the smaller screen new TV's aren't that good. Currently we have 28" and really that is plenty, maybe 32" since flat panels have less around them. The guides talks about size to viewing distance - my wife is often maybe around 1m from screen, I'm about 3-4m on sofa as furthest usual distance but could be 8m at sharp angle if watching from dining table (only for live rugby).

Time for your wife to visit Specsavers?

Originally Posted by Raider999

Time for your wife to visit Specsavers?

Have to agree - that's the distance I sit from my computer monitor (34")

[Glitch33]

Trying to think this through more rationally.

I don't record anything on the old Tivo. It has a newer 43" 4k Smart TV.

Used mainly for Amazon and Netflix. Wife tends to use this room far more than me.
Very occasionally I've watched recordings on the V6. I have used the NOW TV app to watch Sky Sports - I had cancelled it from the VM package but kept finding things I wanted to watch.

In another room I have a V6. It's connected to a relatively old, barely smart 55" HD TV. Sony SEN has a pathetically small choice of Apps.

I've been quite stringent with the V6 recordings recently. It was running at around 60% - 80% capacity but I've cut it back by deleting old stuff I'll never watch and deleting some of the series links that have hung around for years and occasionally spring into life.
Today it runs at about 20% capacity.

I'm not worried about losing recordings or Series links.

I keep threatening to buy a better TV and get the benefit of 4k/UHD, plus some real Smart features.

I refuse to have a TV in the bedroom so there's no plan to expand beyond the two TVs in downstairs rooms.

I wanted to make use of the UHD on TV no. 1 Plus at some point I will replace the old non-4k TV.

Two V6's would do the job nicely but one would be under utilised.
Until I get a new TV I should have just switched the Tivo and V6 around.

With hindsight I'd have held off the 360 'upgrade' (arriving tomorrow) but it's not the end of the world so long as I can prevent the wife having a meltdown because it doesn't work the same as the old set up.

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Probably, seeing I and many others still have an old Tivo box, never mind a V6. Very fond of it too, works very well in combination with a V6 and has other extra output benefits.

An 'upgrade' doesn't always mean better. People get too dazzled by that word. There's usually pros and cons. With the 360 there seems to be more cons.

Agree had my Tivo at least 6 years, still doing sterling service.

[cheekyangus]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

(Any one ready from VM close your eyes you've seen this already).


Our only TV is a Sony CRT with SCART inputs hence we like to keep our standard TiVo. We have a convertor but it only does SCART composite so picture quality isn't very good. The FireStick lets me fine tune the picture so it fits nicely but the V6 has bits all chopped off. We also have lots of recordings that we don't want to lose and many,many series links. We use the HD in both TiVo and V6 and can watch recording on either from either (normally from the V6 on the TiVo) so have 1.5TB storage (shame the 1TB TiVo failed).


I'm not going to get a new TV until the current one stops and one problem is that the smaller screen new TV's aren't that good. Currently we have 28" and really that is plenty, maybe 32" since flat panels have less around them. The guides talks about size to viewing distance - my wife is often maybe around 1m from screen, I'm about 3-4m on sofa as furthest usual distance but could be 8m at sharp angle if watching from dining table (only for live rugby).

28 inch TVs aren't readily available these days. Some sizes just fall out of favour. I have relatives who have a 26" screen, they too won't be likely to replace it with a screen that size. There are a wider array of sizes in computer monitors, but the problem with them is they often don't come with remotes, so you'll probably need to press physical buttons to change the volume! I have this latter problem myself in one (secondary) room.

There was a time when 19 inch TVs were reasonably easier to source, but 22 and 24 (mostly the latter) are really the only "small" sizes available below 32 inch TVs.

If you were replacing the 28 inch, a 32 inch is the way to go. We replaced a 10 year old 32 inch HD LCD in 2017 with another 32 inch TV (this time 1080p rather than a weird in-between resolution) and the physical size difference was, frankly, amazing. Our replacement TV was so much smaller frame-wise, you'd have sworn it was a smaller size screen. The room felt more spacious afterwards. So from experience I can say you can replace an old 28 with a modern 32 and it won't be too much for the room.

32 inch TVs aren't available with 4K/UHD (that I've seen). TV manufacturers only seem to want to do 4K on 40" and above. (Downscaled 4K (via V6) looks lovely on 1080p though, in my humble opinion.) You can get 4K computer monitors at 32" though.

[Glitch33]

Well the kit arrived a day early and I've now converted to 360.

Easy to install.

I need to sort out some series links but first impressions (10 minutes in) are positive.

I like the voice control. I have terrible problems with my Banks' voice recognition systems but this gets every word.

I think the picture quality on the 360 Mini is better than the old Tivo but maybe that's my imagination.

[heero_yuy]

We replaced a Philips 28" 100Hz FST (Matchline chassis) with a Sony Bravia HD 42". The height is the same and with the thin bezel it's only 6" wider. On a smoked glass and chrome pillar stand it actually dominates the room less as it can be pushed further into the bay window.

[browneggsandham]

Yep, I recently replaced a 10 year old 42inch screen with a Sony 49inch and they are not far off the same size, given the narrow surround on the new one.

[JMcB]

I phoned today about the 360 setup, forgot my password(prity sure I didn't but!) So getting new one in the post.

Sorry back to my point. The guy who sounded like he knew what he was talking about said. "If it's the 360 update with your box it will keep recordings and obvs not it it's a new box.

Can anyone confirm this before I get password fixed and spin the whole way around ����

[lonespeaker]

Originally Posted by JMcB

I phoned today about the 360 setup, forgot my password(prity sure I didn't but!) So getting new one in the post.

Sorry back to my point. The guy who sounded like he knew what he was talking about said. "If it's the 360 update with your box it will keep recordings and obvs not it it's a new box.

Can anyone confirm this before I get password fixed and spin the whole way around ����

When you upgrade the V6 to 360, you lose everything. The box will be like it's brand new.

[Mad Max]

I'm kinda glad that I don't have the 360

[JMcB]

I have 2 V6 boxes, I asked about a 3rd box with the 360 stuff and he said a new coaux cable would need to be installed.

Are they not ment to wirelessly connect to the main box?? Or have I picked that up wrong����

[lonespeaker]

Originally Posted by JMcB

I have 2 V6 boxes, I asked about a 3rd box with the 360 stuff and he said a new coaux cable would need to be installed.

Are they not ment to wirelessly connect to the main box?? Or have I picked that up wrong����

You picked that up wrong All Virgin boxes require a coax cable to work properly.