07-12-2018, 14:56
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by djfunkdup
Well if enough people ask Santa then suppose there could be one That's the dude that makes dreams come true init
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Ha, fat chance . . I've been waiting 55 years for the Scalextric I asked for when I was 9
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07-12-2018, 15:12
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#4472
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Carth
Ha, fat chance . . I've been waiting 55 years for the Scalextric I asked for when I was 9
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It gives the remainers some hope i suppose lol but when they look in their stockings Xmass morning they will be disappointed
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07-12-2018, 15:15
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Agreed - if there is to be a second Referendum.
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Debated lastMonday in Parliament.
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Question put and agreed to.
Resolved,
That this House has considered e-petition 226071 relating to not holding a second referendum on EU membership.
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Transcript here.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/common...condReferendum
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07-12-2018, 15:42
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#4474
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Re: Brexit
That’s pretty weak.
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07-12-2018, 15:51
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by pip08456
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I read through about half of the script, interesting view points however I felt the house was mixed on views but most seem to agree we carry on the will of the people
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07-12-2018, 16:02
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Gavin78
we carry on the will of the people
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It's the only option Gavin. Democracy will be carried through,we ain't some backwards undemocratic country that's open to bribery and corruption. That's why we are leaving the EU
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07-12-2018, 16:06
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
That’s pretty weak.
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Could you explain further please?
Seemed pretty reasonable to me, and good to see the 'will of the people' not taken lightly
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07-12-2018, 16:07
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Gavin78
I read through about half of the script, interesting view points however I felt the house was mixed on views but most seem to agree we carry on the will of the people
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That wasn’t a debate in the chamber it was a Westminster Hall debate consisting of two Conservatives (one a Minister), five Labour and one SNP MP.
It’s impossible to derive any meaningful insight into the voting intentions in the chamber going forward from that discussion.
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Originally Posted by Carth
Could you explain further please?
Seemed pretty reasonable to me, and good to see the 'will of the people' not taken lightly
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As above it’s a Westminster Hall debate, so doesn’t hold any of the weight of discussions or matters decided upon (by division or otherwise) in the main chamber.
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07-12-2018, 16:08
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
That wasn’t a debate in the chamber it was a Westminster Hall debate consisting of two Conservatives (one a Minister), five Labour and one SNP MP.
It’s impossible to derive any meaningful insight into the voting intentions in the chamber going forward from that discussion.
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aah, you must have missed those pointing out that they were surprised by the low turnout . . . a little like those missing remainers that couldn't be bothered to vote perhaps?
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07-12-2018, 16:10
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Carth
aah, you must have missed those pointing out that they were surprised by the low turnout . . . a little like those missing remainers that couldn't be bothered to vote perhaps?
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07-12-2018, 16:16
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Carth
aah, you must have missed those pointing out that they were surprised by the low turnout . . . a little like those missing remainers that couldn't be bothered to vote perhaps?
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There is a world of difference between those who didn’t vote and MPs absent from a Westminster Hall debate.
Indeed, those who were in the main chamber at that time (4.30pm, 3rd December 2018) were listening to the Attorney General begin his statement prior to the vote that the Government was in contempt of Parliament.
Far from “couldn’t be bothered” our Parliamentarians were dealing with matters of critical national importance.
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07-12-2018, 16:19
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
Far from “couldn’t be bothered” our Parliamentarians were dealing with matters of critical national importance.
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So . . a petition calling for a second referendum, signed by thousands (possibly even yourself) isn't quite as important as everyone has been making out.
I get it now, thanks
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07-12-2018, 16:23
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#4483
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Carth
So . . a petition calling for a second referendum, signed by thousands (possibly even yourself) isn't quite as important as everyone has been making out.
I get it now, thanks
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If you actually read the detail you would see that petition was to not hold a second referendum.
I can assure all honourable members of the forum I was not a signatory.
I do agree however, that petition was unimportant.
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07-12-2018, 17:13
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by djfunkdup
Well if enough people ask Santa then suppose there could be one That's the dude that makes dreams come true init
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But yet people still get what they asked for, because responsible parents realise it’s important to set realistic expectations and not promise what can’t be delivered to those expecting nice things.
We all know Santa doesn’t exist, so we make sure we plan well in advance and put things in place, rather than having to go to the petrol garage on Christmas Eve and giving people BBQ Charcoal, an overpriced bag of Maltesers, and some beyond best date flowers because we couldn’t be bothered actually trying to work out the impact of what we promised.
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07-12-2018, 17:17
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
If you actually read the detail you would see that petition was to not hold a second referendum.
I can assure all honourable members of the forum I was not a signatory.
I do agree however, that petition was unimportant.
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You would still expect more of those who advocate for one to be present to put forward the case.
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