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Old 18-05-2020, 10:18   #31
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

If anything we need to encourage kids to be more active, whether its cycling or something else. Otherwise they'll just get fatter behind their consoles, and just drive everywhere when they get a car - the way the US has gone. We'd have yet another crisis for the NHS in the years to come.
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Old 18-05-2020, 10:32   #32
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

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They just don't seem aware of the danger of getting in the way of an impatient motorist.
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Old 18-05-2020, 10:53   #33
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to make things as awkward as possible for car drivers
It may come as a surprise, but they really aren't doing it to annoy you.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/cy...-Positioning-0
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Old 18-05-2020, 11:01   #34
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

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It may come as a surprise, but they really aren't doing it to annoy you.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/cy...-Positioning-0
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Riding in the primary position is sometimes called taking the lane as the cyclist takes the position normally taken by the motorist, who is thus prevented from attempting to overtake.
There is nothing guaranteed more to get up a normal (let alone irritated/impatient) drivers nose than a cyclist in the middle of the lane trundling happily along and ignoring the stream of traffic crawling along behind them.
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Old 18-05-2020, 11:06   #35
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

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It may come as a surprise, but they really aren't doing it to annoy you
One here definitely was, dawdling-along in the middle of main roads with a sign on his back "20 is plenty".

I wish he had actually got up anywhere near 20mph as he screwed with the bus timetables for hours.

And we've probably all seen the recent incident where a young girl, very unsteady on her bike, collided with a couple on a very narrow footpath. And then her father, who had been riding behind her, claimed the couple had pushed her over, despite his own video showing they had not.
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

Are cyclists exempt from using mobile phones while on the move . . . or is it just my area that has a surfeit of them?
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Old 18-05-2020, 11:25   #37
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Are cyclists exempt from using mobile phones while on the move . . . or is it just my area that has a surfeit of them?
Around here most are exempt from using the handle bars/stopping at traffic lights/ having the front wheel on the road/ riding on the left.....
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Old 18-05-2020, 11:41   #38
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Around here most are exempt from using the handle bars/stopping at traffic lights/ having the front wheel on the road/ riding on the left.....
Well yeah, but I didn't want to promote (mainly the younger) cyclists in a bad way
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Old 18-05-2020, 12:02   #39
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It may come as a surprise, but they really aren't doing it to annoy you.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/cy...-Positioning-0
Yeah, it's a good technique, especially if you're shifting. One of the few times I came off my bike and a big source of near misses is when I am on my road bike and tanking along at 25mph. Drivers often misjudge the speed I am going at, try to overtake and rapidly run out of space when the speed differential in a 30mph zone is only 5mph.

If I see things like bollards ahead, I will start to 'ride big' to stop a misjudged overtake. Being knocked off a bike at 25mph isn't fun!
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Are cyclists exempt from using mobile phones while on the move . . . or is it just my area that has a surfeit of them?
"Using a hand held mobile phone whilst cycling is not illegal per se. However, you could commit an offence of careless cycling. It is also not advisable for the obvious safety reasons."

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q604.htm
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

What we need is the complete segregation of motorists and cyclists. Cyclists (especially children) will be safer and motorists won’t have to put up with the irritation. We all happy .

It will mean that as motorists cannot responsibly share road space, less of it would be available to them as more dedicated cycle routes spring up all over the country.

This is the way things are going; I don’t think it’s what motorists really want but they are moaning their way into it. Sigh.
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What we need is the complete segregation of motorists and cyclists. Cyclists (especially children) will be safer and motorists won’t have to put up with the irritation. We all happy .

It will mean that as motorists cannot responsibly share road space, less of it would be available to them as more dedicated cycle routes spring up all over the country.

This is the way things are going; I don’t think it’s what motorists really want but they are moaning their way into it. Sigh.
In some other countries they are already adopting those measures.
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Re: Return of the cyclist scourge

I got quite used to the cyclists' traffic lights in the Netherlands. And the riders abided by them. N.B. don't go driving near any form of junction in the Netherlands if you have a weak heart. Cyclists often have priority and don't even bother looking to see what's coming.
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I got quite used to the cyclists' traffic lights in the Netherlands. And the riders abided by them. N.B. don't go driving near any form of junction in the Netherlands if you have a weak heart. Cyclists often have priority and don't even bother looking to see what's coming.
I didn't which would get me first when I was in Amsterdam, cyclists from every direction, trams from other directions, and of course in a few cars, if they can squeeze in.... . You have to have your wits about you as s pedestrian ! Nice people and coffee bars though
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What we need is the complete segregation of motorists and cyclists. Cyclists (especially children) will be safer and motorists won’t have to put up with the irritation. We all happy .

It will mean that as motorists cannot responsibly share road space, less of it would be available to them as more dedicated cycle routes spring up all over the country.

This is the way things are going; I don’t think it’s what motorists really want but they are moaning their way into it. Sigh.
You are correct but with our challenges on road space and land ownership, expanding roads to include dedicated cycle lanes is a big ask.

What is needed is for Government (Local probably) to stand up to the Luddites and make brave road/urban space planning changes, like they made in Ghent:



However, at the end of the day, some people will just moan at anything. I mean, the Daily Mail built a whole comments section around this principle!
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