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Old 29-07-2017, 01:35   #136
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.

It's going to happen either way. The car companies are moving in that direction and the flexibility it gives to government energy policy is appealing as well. People are arguing as if this isn't already the path we're on. Maybe a government can come in and mandate we scale back plans to implement electric stations and promote petrol but it would be the same as a government coming in attempting to promote the post over e-mail. This is the path technology is taking.

The problem isn't charging stations but generating the energy. Governments need to look at that. We need more nuclear power plants, we need to look at integrating more solar energy into the network.
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Old 29-07-2017, 06:49   #137
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Old people are like that Dave
You will of course be like that one day and with that can come considered thought and pangs of wisdom young chap of course along with a few senior moments as well.

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It's going to happen either way. The car companies are moving in that direction and the flexibility it gives to government energy policy is appealing as well. People are arguing as if this isn't already the path we're on. Maybe a government can come in and mandate we scale back plans to implement electric stations and promote petrol but it would be the same as a government coming in attempting to promote the post over e-mail. This is the path technology is taking.

The problem isn't charging stations but generating the energy. Governments need to look at that. We need more nuclear power plants, we need to look at integrating more solar energy into the network.
Our future energy plans for the future have not exactly been great these last 40 years have they?.
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Old 29-07-2017, 07:33   #138
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We've been using them for 12 months or so and having used them they seem pretty fit for purpose.

http://news.leeds.gov.uk/power-surge...goes-electric/

I heard someone mention a few weeks ago that the plan is to make electric vehicles the default going forward and anything else will require a business case.

It does make me smile when people just seem so opposed to change.

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but then if i wanted an electric vehicle i would already own one . i don't and have no plans to buy one , anyway a future government might scrap the idea as an unattainable pipe dream .
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Old 29-07-2017, 11:28   #139
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.

Future governments may not have a choice.

If there is a general move to electric and hybrid cars across the world, then it's very unlikely that car manufactures would continue to build full petrol or diesel cars for a single market. That's irrespective of what sort of trading relationship with have with countries.

So we can either look to move in the same direction and the government can ensure that we have the appropriate infrastructure, or we can ignore it, and wonder why we have a limited car market.
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban.

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You will of course be like that one day and with that can come considered thought and pangs of wisdom young chap of course along with a few senior moments as well.
But I won't be old before my time .
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Future governments may not have a choice.

If there is a general move to electric and hybrid cars across the world, then it's very unlikely that car manufactures would continue to build full petrol or diesel cars for a single market. That's irrespective of what sort of trading relationship with have with countries.

So we can either look to move in the same direction and the government can ensure that we have the appropriate infrastructure, or we can ignore it, and wonder why we have a limited car market.
Spot on. We can't resist the irresistible especially when it makes perfect sense. We should be on this course now not in 20 years time.
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Future governments may not have a choice.

If there is a general move to electric and hybrid cars across the world, then it's very unlikely that car manufactures would continue to build full petrol or diesel cars for a single market. That's irrespective of what sort of trading relationship with have with countries.

So we can either look to move in the same direction and the government can ensure that we have the appropriate infrastructure, or we can ignore it, and wonder why we have a limited car market.
hybrids i could go for [petrol/diesel and electric ] but full electric i don't see it
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hybrids i could go for [petrol/diesel and electric ] but full electric i don't see it
A good start papa; it shows willing. But full electric will happen and I think you'll look back at the old days of ridiculous combustion pollution and think "omg". Do it for the little smurfs .
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But I won't be old before my time .


Spot on. We can't resist the irresistible especially when it makes perfect sense. We should be on this course now not in 20 years time.
Q how do you get to be so old
A by not being cheeky to your elders
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Q how do you get to be so old
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I put Den at about, hmm, 104? Sadly
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A good start papa; it shows willing. But full electric will happen and I think you'll look back at the old days of ridiculous combustion pollution and think "omg". Do it for the little smurfs .
little they're bigger than me

i think in the future if i have a mobility scooter i will take the vacuum cleaner motor out of it and fit a Harley 1200 a man needs street cred .

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I put Den at about, hmm, 104? Sadly
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I put Den at about, hmm, 104? Sadly
The E class awaits for you then.
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i think in the future if i have a mobility scooter i will take the vacuum cleaner motor out of it and fit a Harley 1200 a man needs street cred .
Not sure your motability contract will allow that

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Not sure your motability contract will allow that
i'll do a diddle i've learned a lot on this forum
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Not sure your motability contract will allow that



Mercedes?
I was thinking more along the lines of educational young man.

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All good l hope as we like to keep people on the straight and narrow.
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