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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
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Doesn’t make him a rat, though.
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08-03-2023, 07:26
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
MP for Wokingham next? 
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08-03-2023, 07:48
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Doesn’t make him a rat, though.
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Not my words as you well know.
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08-03-2023, 08:57
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
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JR is the adopted candidate.
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08-03-2023, 09:29
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
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I’m pretty sure Seph wasn’t objecting to a literal use of ‘rat’. More likely the insinuation that Brady is unprincipled, jumping before he’s pushed, only interested in saving his own skin, etc etc etc. Any or all of which might be true or might not.
I suspect Seph has actually challenged you to back up that assertion in some way. What you’ve actually done is accuse him of wilfully misunderstanding you, and then responded by wilfully misunderstanding him. Which seems a bit pointless really.
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You are also misinterpreting the phrase:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...a-sinking-ship
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used to refer to people leaving a place, organization, activity, etc. very quickly and in large numbers, because it is failing in some way
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Brady is not a "rat" per se, rather he is leaving the failed Tory Party before he is possibly voted out at the next GE.
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08-03-2023, 09:54
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
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Originally Posted by Hugh
The rats are leaving the sinking ship…
Graham Brady: Tory Chair of 1922 committee to stand down as MP
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64880471
Graham Brady has been the MP for Altrincham & Sale West for over 26 years with a 6k+ majority, and is only 55 - unusual for someone in that position/age to stand down… |
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That was the point I was hoping that people would get…
(as he is amongst the 22 Conservative MPs (so far) who have said they are not standing again in the next General Election…)
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08-03-2023, 10:22
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
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That was the point I was hoping that people would get…
(as he is amongst the 22 Conservative MPs (so far) who have said they are not standing again in the next General Election…)
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To his credit, he's not joined the growing list of MPs holding down a job at a TV news broadcaster whilst being a sitting MP.
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08-03-2023, 10:26
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
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To his credit, he's not joined the growing list of MPs holding down a job at a TV news broadcaster whilst being a sitting MP.
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You wonder where Ofcom are in all this as sitting MPs of all political persuasions should not be using TV or Radio channels as a platform for their own politics.
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08-03-2023, 10:41
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
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To his credit, he's not joined the growing list of MPs holding down a job at a TV news broadcaster whilst being a sitting MP.
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I’m sure they’ve all cleared it with ACoBA…
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...arding-talk-tv
https://www.civilserviceworld.com/pr...et-office-told
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08-03-2023, 11:06
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
To be honest, I am surprised at Sunak. I had thought he was one of the more principled members of the current Government. He has, however, decided to front Braverman's doomed "Make Seeking Asylum In The UK Illegal" project. She seems to have convinced him that the only way the Tories can win the next GE is to embrace a full-on Goebbels-style "hate the foreigner" campaign.
This will blow up in their faces as they do not yet realise that there are more decent people in this country than those they are pandering to. Sunak has sold his soul to the Farage/UKIP/National Front cabal and will regret it.
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08-03-2023, 13:13
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
Maybe the "decent" people are getting tired of illegal arrivals as well ?
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08-03-2023, 13:37
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
I think everyone is, especially on small boats, but the measures do seem draconian for show rather than a genuine plan to combat it. Cynically, I don't think they have a real idea of what to do so went with an over-the-top plan designed to caught up in legal challenges so they can pretend it's not their fault.
I mean you're excluded from modern slavery laws if you arrived by boat? No way in hell that happens.
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08-03-2023, 13:43
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
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To be honest, I am surprised at Sunak. I had thought he was one of the more principled members of the current Government. He has, however, decided to front Braverman's doomed "Make Seeking Asylum In The UK Illegal" project. She seems to have convinced him that the only way the Tories can win the next GE is to embrace a full-on Goebbels-style "hate the foreigner" campaign.
This will blow up in their faces as they do not yet realise that there are more decent people in this country than those they are pandering to. Sunak has sold his soul to the Farage/UKIP/National Front cabal and will regret it.
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Er - Goebbels?
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08-03-2023, 14:56
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
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Maybe the "decent" people are getting tired of illegal arrivals as well ?
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What are "illegal arrivals"? It is not illegal to arrive here via boat and claim asylum. Maybe these people are tired of being forced to travel on small boats since they are unable to claim asylum via any other means.
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Er - Goebbels?
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Maybe you prefer the British Union of Fascists?
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"Under Fascism, no alien shall enter this country to take the jobs of Britons, and aliens already here who have abused the hospitality of this nation will be sent back whence they came."
- British Union of Fascists, '10 Points of #Fascism', 1933
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If you aware of European history, you will see the similarity between the language & style used by 1930's Germany to demonise the Jews and the current Home Secretary's attempt to achieve a similar feat against the asylum seekers arriving here by boat.
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08-03-2023, 15:55
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
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Maybe the "decent" people are getting tired of illegal arrivals as well ?
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Well I'm sick of it. If that makes me Racist, Fascist, Xenophobic, whatever. So be it.
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