14-01-2019, 19:36
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Re: Brexit
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With a lot of intimidation and arresting of members of that parliament. Hitler wasn’t keen on democracy...
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The Night of the Long Knives.
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14-01-2019, 20:54
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
I hope we don't have a general election.
I will NEVER vote for labour while JC is involved with them.
He's seems only interested in blocking brexit so he can try and get an election.
Plus my Tory MP is a remainer so again going against what my town voted which was to leave.
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you do know he a very big brexiteer pretending to be a remainer right
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14-01-2019, 20:56
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#6363
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Re: Brexit
Is he even pretending??? 
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14-01-2019, 21:04
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Re: Brexit
The trouble with JC is he just cannot back May because she is a tory.
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14-01-2019, 21:11
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Re: Brexit
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So which democratic vote did he ignore? It was the German Parliament that gave him any powers.
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Do you mean the Enabling Act, which was enacted by the Reichstag where non-Nazi members were surrounded and threatened by members of Sturmabteilung and the SS, and the Communists and some Social Democrats were not allowed to be present or to vote?
Democratic vote?
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14-01-2019, 21:32
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
The trouble with JC is he just cannot back May because she is a tory.
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Corbyn doesn't want to back Brexit and alienate Remainers or get the blame if it goes wrong. He doesn't want to overturn Brexit and deal with the backlash of Leavers, and ideologically he supports it anyway. He wants it to all go wrong and the Tories get the blame so he wins an election.
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14-01-2019, 21:49
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Re: Brexit
JC and TM should job swap until April.
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14-01-2019, 21:56
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
JC and TM should job swap until April.
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Ha ha. They both probably secretly wish they could! Often, what people don't say is more informative than what they do say.
How many times has Theresa May said her deal is better than no deal? Quite a few.
But, how many times has May said her deal is better than no Brexit? Never.
No further questions milord.
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14-01-2019, 22:26
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
JC and TM should job swap until April.
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We would end up a 3rd world country within a matter of weeks no thanks
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14-01-2019, 22:37
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Gavin78
We would end up a 3rd world country within a matter of weeks no thanks
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But JC may be unable to implement Brexit either.
---------- Post added at 22:37 ---------- Previous post was at 22:35 ----------
House of Lords have rejected Theresa May’s deal by 321 votes to 152.
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14-01-2019, 22:56
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Re: Brexit
BREAKING: Theresa May's Brexit agreement has suffered its first official parliamentary defeat as peers registered their opposition to it by 321 votes to 152 with a majority of 169
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14-01-2019, 23:47
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
BREAKING: Theresa May's Brexit agreement has suffered its first official parliamentary defeat as peers registered their opposition to it by 321 votes to 152 with a majority of 169
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second will be tomorrow for sure then no one has any idea what happens next
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15-01-2019, 00:01
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Dave42
second will be tomorrow for sure then no one has any idea what happens next
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Exciting times, we are living through a key part of British history.
Wish I was watching from a position of retirement, no mortgage and an index-linked pension though! Hey, ho back to the grind in a few hours...
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15-01-2019, 05:26
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Re: Brexit
I’m bizarrely coming round to Theresa May’s deal. It’s not really Brexit, keeps us economically tied to the EU and for the xenophobes it ends freedom of movement.
While nobody thinks it’s great it gives everyone something. Probably just enough to end Brexit debates going forward and put a line under it. Remaining, extensions or leaving with no deal will keep the issue rumbling on for years.
Being “stuck in the backstop” keeps us in the customs union without paying into the EU which bizarrely is the best of both worlds if we accept that favourable the trade deals are unlikely.
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15-01-2019, 08:17
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
I’m bizarrely coming round to Theresa May’s deal. It’s not really Brexit, keeps us economically tied to the EU and for the xenophobes it ends freedom of movement.
While nobody thinks it’s great it gives everyone something. Probably just enough to end Brexit debates going forward and put a line under it. Remaining, extensions or leaving with no deal will keep the issue rumbling on for years.
Being “stuck in the backstop” keeps us in the customs union without paying into the EU which bizarrely is the best of both worlds if we accept that favourable the trade deals are unlikely.
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I can see the point you make but there are two problems with your logic:
1. this validates the decades of right wing media anti-EU propaganda and xenophobia that underwrote the 2016 result.
2. this deal is forcing a future on a generation that overwhelmingly does not want it. Moreover, now the actual deal is known, they are denied a voice in approving (or denying) it.
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