26-02-2019, 18:04
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Disagreeing with, and pointing out errors in what someone says is not playing the bigot/racist card - saying that is a pre-emptive straw man argument.
You strongly object to people making unsubstantiated generalisations about disabled people, but seem happy to do so against immigrants - double standards in play.
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I was specifically accused of making bigoted statements; not helpful.
I have never suggested that all immigrants commit crime, that would be preposterous.
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26-02-2019, 18:14
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
I was specifically accused of making bigoted statements; not helpful.
I have never suggested that all immigrants commit crime, that would be preposterous.
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Many immigrants going back to after the second world war have contributed greatly to this country in its time of need and yet are treated as third class citizens by parts of the government , establishment and by parts of the populace.
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/0...sh-generation/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43782241
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26-02-2019, 18:57
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#7878
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by denphone
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Absolutely, which is wrong. To be clear, these decent people aren't the ones that i'm referring to, but the Governments hands are tied due to the ridiculous freedom of movement rules for EU citizens.
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26-02-2019, 19:23
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#7879
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
I think Mrs May will get her deal through now...
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I guess that there will be
- An Article 50 extension
- Then a second referendum. I don't agree with it and the choice of options will be controversial but I'm struggling to see how you end the deadlock whilst avoiding a nonsensical no-deal which would condemn the ruling party to a political abyss at the next election and many after.
At what stage will Theresa May step down is another intriguing question?
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
I was specifically accused of making bigoted statements; not helpful.
I have never suggested that all immigrants commit crime, that would be preposterous.
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We should all appreciate that there's wrong-uns in all nationalities and that freedom of movement does not prevent our dealing with criminal behaviour.
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26-02-2019, 19:52
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Disagreeing with, and pointing out errors in what someone says is not playing the bigot/racist card - saying that is a pre-emptive straw man argument.
You strongly object to people making unsubstantiated generalisations about disabled people, but seem happy to do so against immigrants - double standards in play.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
I was specifically accused of making bigoted statements; not helpful.
I have never suggested that all immigrants commit crime, that would be preposterous.
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Please point out where I said that you had stated that "all immigrants commit crime"?
Not helpful...
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26-02-2019, 20:07
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Please point out where I said that you had stated that "all immigrants commit crime"?
Not helpful...
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Let's face it Hugh, Brexit isn't helpful. It's brought out the worst in everyone.
Meanwhile, the World warms to destruction and no one cares...
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26-02-2019, 20:49
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Let's face it Hugh, Brexit isn't helpful. It's brought out the worst in everyone.
Meanwhile, the World warms to destruction and no one cares...
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Is there a bandwagon you haven't jumped on
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26-02-2019, 21:39
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Is there a bandwagon you haven't jumped on
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Scientific reality is not a bandwagon.
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26-02-2019, 23:02
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Re: Brexit
sorry about the late reply to an earlier post, been at work
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Originally Posted by ianch99
A better version would be if you resigned from your job with no redundancy payments and the challenge of finding similarly rewarding employment at short notice.
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I've done exactly that on a number of occasions.
Here I am, working, still living in my 3 bed detached house with 2 nice cars on the driveway.
There comes a time when it's better to walk away than dismally wait around hoping things will improve
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27-02-2019, 08:05
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Carth
sorry about the late reply to an earlier post, been at work
I've done exactly that on a number of occasions.
Here I am, working, still living in my 3 bed detached house with 2 nice cars on the driveway.
There comes a time when it's better to walk away than dismally wait around hoping things will improve
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Yes, but did you kidnap your neighbour, get him sacked and make him force to live with you in your nice 3 bed house? Maybe one of the cars are his (or her's) ?
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Scientific reality is not a bandwagon.
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It is to some ..
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27-02-2019, 08:13
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Carth
sorry about the late reply to an earlier post, been at work
I've done exactly that on a number of occasions.
Here I am, working, still living in my 3 bed detached house with 2 nice cars on the driveway.
There comes a time when it's better to walk away than dismally wait around hoping things will improve
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The old "well, it worked for me" anecdote.
I’ve never done that, and yet, here I am, semi-retired, still living in my 4 bed detached house in a nice area, with 2 nice cars on the driveway, and have 3 holidays abroad a year - perhaps if you hadn’t done that, you’d be better off?
I’ve been in a couple of serious car crashes, and survived with only minor injuries - however, I don’t drive around thinking "well, it doesn’t matter if I crash, I survived before...".
"It’s probably going to be OK" is not an optimal approach for a country’s economy...
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Last edited by Hugh; 27-02-2019 at 09:46.
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27-02-2019, 09:18
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Re: Brexit
Remainer THREATENS Brexit protester
'I want to throw you off this [swear word] bridge!'
The Brexit protestor had been holding signs over a bridge to drivers when he was threatened by a furious Remainer who claimed he was damaging the country more than Hitler. The Remainer then attempted to grab the Brexit protestor and his sign which resulted in a standoff with the pair hurling insults at one another. Off camera, the attacker can be heard saying: “I feel like throwing you off this [swear word] bridge.”
Oh dear me remains true colours showing through.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/10...-jeremy-corbyn
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27-02-2019, 09:24
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Remainer THREATENS Brexit protester
'I want to throw you off this [swear word] bridge!'
The Brexit protestor had been holding signs over a bridge to drivers when he was threatened by a furious Remainer who claimed he was damaging the country more than Hitler. The Remainer then attempted to grab the Brexit protestor and his sign which resulted in a standoff with the pair hurling insults at one another. Off camera, the attacker can be heard saying: “I feel like throwing you off this [swear word] bridge.”
Oh dear me remains true colours showing through.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/10...-jeremy-corbyn
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Regardless of your position on Brexit, people grabbing others is just unacceptable. Nor should it be used by either side to try to claim the moral high ground.
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27-02-2019, 09:35
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
I guess that there will be
- An Article 50 extension
- Then a second referendum. I don't agree with it and the choice of options will be controversial but I'm struggling to see how you end the deadlock whilst avoiding a nonsensical no-deal which would condemn the ruling party to a political abyss at the next election and many after.
At what stage will Theresa May step down is another intriguing question?[COLOR="Silver"]
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Theresa May is not going to step down, and doesn't have to. She's safe for at least a year, having survived a Conservative Party challenge.
The votes she has announced in the Commons is a clever move. It sets out starkly what the choices are and forces MPs to make a choice. There are no other choices and the EU will not negotiate a different deal.
Neither a second referendum nor a General Election will change anything regarding Brexit - unless the Conservatives are swept in with a big majority. Not impossible, I suppose, given the 11-point lead the Conservatives have in the latest YouGov poll, but then again, we've said that before. What is different this time though is that Corbyn's ratings have crashed, so I don't see him doing a superman act against all the odds this time.
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27-02-2019, 09:48
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Remainer THREATENS Brexit protester
'I want to throw you off this [swear word] bridge!'
The Brexit protestor had been holding signs over a bridge to drivers when he was threatened by a furious Remainer who claimed he was damaging the country more than Hitler. The Remainer then attempted to grab the Brexit protestor and his sign which resulted in a standoff with the pair hurling insults at one another. Off camera, the attacker can be heard saying: “I feel like throwing you off this [swear word] bridge.”
Oh dear me remains true colours showing through.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/10...-jeremy-corbyn
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
Regardless of your position on Brexit, people grabbing others is just unacceptable. Nor should it be used by either side to try to claim the moral high ground.
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Totally agree - problem is, there are examples of idiots on both sides threatening violence, and it’s equally abhorrent whoever does it.
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