Upstream traffic management scrapped
24-05-2018, 20:04
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
I think he meant 6 x on lowest tiers compared to Virgins lowest tiers.
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24-05-2018, 20:46
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
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Originally Posted by alanbjames
I think he meant 6 x on lowest tiers compared to Virgins lowest tiers.
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If 6x the upload at entry level, Sky, BT etc. would be offering a 10Mb connection with 18Mb to 36Mb upload
Entry level - Virgin 3Mb to 6Mb, Sky 0.7Mb
Mid tier - Virgin 12Mb, Sky 9Mb
Top tier - Virgin 21Mb, Sky 18Mb
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24-05-2018, 20:59
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
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Originally Posted by General Maximus
well they are continuously moving in the direction with capacity upgrades, speed upgrades and stm removal so who knows, maybe upload speed increase will be next and everyone will be realigned to 10:1. It would make sense once everyone is on 4 upstreams running qam64.
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I don't think I will ever see qam64 because I have never had it on 2 upstreams.
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12-06-2018, 17:44
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
Perfect timing! Now to upload 4.5TB of data to Backblaze.. will only take 45 days now!
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13-06-2018, 10:40
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
Any whisperings about an upload increase?
Can't imagine Virgin are adding more channels for shits and giggles
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13-06-2018, 11:23
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
It will be to provide the extra capacity required for when they announce the docsis 3.1 rollout later this year and a 500/35 tier
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14-06-2018, 10:58
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
500 seems a bit unnecessary, but 35 would be nice, shame they don't let you pick and choose the up/downstream speeds.
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14-06-2018, 18:43
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
Nothing is ever unnecessary in the name of advancement.
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15-06-2018, 21:11
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
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Originally Posted by Synthetic
500 seems a bit unnecessary, but 35 would be nice, shame they don't let you pick and choose the up/downstream speeds.
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it is only unneccessary if they offer a speed which you cant really benefit from but I think these days most people will be pleasantly surprised. I like to get things downloaded asap even if it means my connection being idle 99% of the time and I love Steam purely for the speed when I get a new game. I would love to have 500mbits now just to see what Steam gives me.
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15-06-2018, 23:04
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
I'd take 500 in a heartbeat if it went up on sale anytime soon having stuff download faster would be great.
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16-06-2018, 00:38
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
I'd take proper gigabit any day of the week. It's laughable that we pay a relative fortune here for a couple of hundred megs, and my friends and colleagues in Romania pay €9 a month for unmetered symmetrical gigabit FTTP. By the time VM do roll out gigabit (let alone with any kind of decent upstream) it's going to be mainstream and 'meh' already, a bit like being told you qualify for 100Mbps today. Hopefully DOCSIS 3.1 rolling out lets them run away a little bit, rather than miserly stringing out the incremental updates.
In the meantime at least, I can finally say our local nodes are getting to where they should have been all along. I get the advertised speeds almost all the time (sometimes with troughs between 9pm and 11pm), and now the STM and upload caps / NNTP and other protocol throttling has gone, miraculously my VPN speed cap issues that are definitely-nothing-to-do-with-us-Sir have disappeared at exactly the same time. Funny, that.
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16-06-2018, 09:58
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
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Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw
Hopefully DOCSIS 3.1 rolling out lets them run away a little bit, rather than miserly stringing out the incremental updates.
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The problem is that unless you are one of the relatively few that can have fttp atm, nobody who is serviced by Openreach can come close to VM's speeds so as far as VM are concerned they are well ahead of the game. The most I can get through fttc is 53/13 yet I am on 400/20 with VM. Although you can argue it is the wrong attitude, there is such a difference between the tiers already that I am sure VM would look at it as they have already pulled all the customers who want the fastest speed so increasing it to 500, 750 or 1gbit atm is only going to cost more without providing any extra revenue.
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16-06-2018, 12:05
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
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Originally Posted by JordanTheToaster
I'd take 500 in a heartbeat if it went up on sale anytime soon having stuff download faster would be great.
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I used to be like you many years ago back in my dark ages but then as life goes i realised i had different priorities, so when the speed hit 100mbit i was happy with that especially now i don't really need to download much as i stream most of my stuff using Kodi Amazon Prime or Netflix, but IF the monthly cost really didn't matter to me and i didn't need to save that money for the future i would agree and get the fastest possible even if i didn't need it really.
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16-06-2018, 12:10
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
I only pay £41 for 350 so it's not a burden on me.
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16-06-2018, 12:31
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Re: Upstream traffic management scrapped
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I only pay £41 for 350 so it's not a burden on me.
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My point being though is you're only 20 so in the future your priorities could easily change and i am sure you would have a financial limit of how high you would go before you think to yourself i should really be doing something else with this money and i can easily make do with xxx speed.
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