UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

Originally Posted by Damien

The attorney general’s legal advice has ‘accidentally’ been leaked and it appears he advised it was legal. That’s him thrown under the bus.

Linky

https://news.sky.com/story/exclusive...snt-sf-twitter

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Have you read it?

Yes (that's how I know the answer is in there...).

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

This judgement as explained by the SC this morning is not in relation to Brexit it’s regard if there was any misuse of power or unlawful activity occurred during the process of proroguing parliament.

There was.


Unless of course you’re saying that the whole point of the prorogation was to facilitate a no deal Brexit something Boris himself has strenuously denied

What? You seem to be a trifle confused. First you allege I said Parliament was acting unlawfully (which I didn't) and now you imply that I think the point of prorogation was to facilitate a no deal Brexit (and I have said nothing of the sort). I have made clear throughout that the proroguing of Parliament was done in view of the conference season and the Queen's Speech.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Linky

https://news.sky.com/story/exclusive...snt-sf-twitter

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Yes (that's how I know the answer is in there...).

Is it a state secret ?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Dave42

the court ruling was not about Brexit it was about pm unlawfully proroguing parliament

makes me laugh leavers like you OB crying parliament was not sovereign then crying about parliament proving it was sovereign all the time

I didn't say anything to the contrary. I was comparing the comments people were making about Boris's behaviour with the behaviour of Parliament in doing all it can to ditch Brexit.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

A concise summing up of Mr Blobby's record so far from Ms Kuenssberg:-

In his two months in power, Boris Johnson has lost his first six Commons votes, broken the law by suspending Parliament and misled the monarch.

Hope he's not on performance pay....

So what? Boris wants to implement the will of the electorate, and the lost votes simply reflect his lack of a majority for getting that through.

You can't blame the man for trying (although no doubt, you will).

I would like to ask why these last few weeks are so important for having Parliamentary debates when it is self evident that three years of debating has got us nowhere, except to prove that Parliament won't agree any solution that is put to them. What a waste of time. Now the Labour Party Conference will have to be cut short and the Conservative Party Conference postponed.

Absolutely insane.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

So going forward is there now a legal limit on the number of days in a prorogation ?

No, it is the impact of the prorogation that will be important, although the amount of time involved, inevitably, will form part of the assessment.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I didn't say anything to the contrary. I was comparing the comments people were making about Boris's behaviour with the behaviour of Parliament in doing all it can to ditch Brexit.

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So what? Boris wants to implement the will of the electorate, and the lost votes simply reflect his lack of a majority for getting that through.

You can't blame the man for trying (although no doubt, you will).

I would like to ask why these last few weeks are so important for having Parliamentary debates when it is self evident that three years of debating has got us nowhere, except to prove that Parliament won't agree any solution that is put to them. What a waste of time. Now the Labour Party Conference will have to be cut short and the Conservative Party Conference postponed.

Absolutely insane.

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No, it is the impact of the prorogation that will be important, although the amount of time involved, inevitably, will form part of the assessment.

Thank you for replying.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Is it a state secret ?

No

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So what? Boris wants to implement the will of the electorate, and the lost votes simply reflect his lack of a majority for getting that through.

You can't blame the man for trying (although no doubt, you will).

I would like to ask why these last few weeks are so important for having Parliamentary debates when it is self evident that three years of debating has got us nowhere, except to prove that Parliament won't agree any solution that is put to them. What a waste of time. Now the Labour Party Conference will have to be cut short and the Conservative Party Conference postponed.

Absolutely insane

Given that the majority of the electorate at the last election voted for parties specifically ruling out No Deal, this does implement the will of the (last active) electorate.

You cannot blame him for trying but the Supreme Court of the UK can. I know which is the more credible.

You ask why this is important? Sort of obvious really. The current PM is intent on leaving the EU without an orderly exit which, in the eyes of our elected Parliamentary representatives, is not in the best interests of the country.

Originally Posted by Chris

He will be the sacrificial lamb offered up in place of BoJo, who from the noises he’s made so far clearly has no intention of going anywhere.

He is quite popular within the party isn’t he? Not sure it’s gonna help the Tory Party opinions of No 10 if he is perceived to be the sacrificial lamb but if it is his legal advice that got them here then..,

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

He is quite popular within the party isn’t he? Not sure it’s gonna help the Tory Party opinions of No 10 if he is perceived to be the sacrificial lamb but if it is his legal advice that got them here then..,

The Conservatives have thrown enough popular people out of the Party recently so another one won't make too much difference.

More pressure on the PM - he has two weeks to explain his dealings with US businesswoman Jennifer Arcuri.
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...woman-11818532

Meanwhile, John Mcdonnell goes on the news to suggest the Tory party should deal with Boris. He’d love that of course - saves Labour having to set in train events that would lead to an election that, despite everything, they would almost certainly lose.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The Conservatives have thrown enough popular people out of the Party recently so another one won't make too much difference.

More pressure on the PM - he has two weeks to explain his dealings with US businesswoman Jennifer Arcuri.
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...woman-11818532

popular with who ?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

popular with who ?

The electorate.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

popular with who ?

Their constituents?

Originally Posted by Chris

Meanwhile, John Mcdonnell goes on the news to suggest the Tory party should deal with Boris. He’d love that of course - saves Labour having to set in train events that would lead to an election that, despite everything, they would almost certainly lose.

I think everyone knows an election is coming soon either way. They just want to make sure Boris Johnson is getting as much bad press as possible, although I don't think they're nearly adept at it as Dominic Cummings is.

I think the election result is really up in the air. In terms of seats it's easier to see where the Tories lose seats (Scotland, Lib/Tory marginals) but it's not clear where they win them. They're betting the house on large swings from Labour Brexiters but if they've miscalculated that then....

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The electorate.

But they're politicians,typhoid is more popular.