01-02-2018, 12:58
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Rise above the players
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by Raider999
When we get any worthwhile 4K channels we will be able to tell how fast broadband we need
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Don't you mean 'if' we get any 4K channels?
It would not surprise me if all the 4K on Virgin was provided by on demand/streaming.
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Originally Posted by Chad
Part of the reason I left Virgin Media was due to the ridiculous amount of time they can take to add a new channel to their platform. Sometimes it takes over a year to get a new Freeview channel on the EPG. Far too frustrating. The latest example is Freesports.
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Well, as time goes on, Chad, I dare say that most broadcast channels will be closing down rather than starting up, and VM close down channels immediately!
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01-02-2018, 13:12
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
So if Sky start streaming their TV service i guess they will be providing the equipment so is there any news what this will be and how much it'll cost yet?
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01-02-2018, 13:20
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Rise above the players
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
So if Sky start streaming their TV service i guess they will be providing the equipment so is there any news what this will be and how much it'll cost yet?
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I believe they will be providing a box for this purpose, but I haven't seen any details yet.
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01-02-2018, 21:38
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Bah Humbug!!
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
So if Sky start streaming their TV service i guess they will be providing the equipment so is there any news what this will be and how much it'll cost yet?
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was a variant of the Q box as the mini ones already stream everything from the main box. So a bit of a software change and the main box could easily be configured for everything to be streamed.
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01-02-2018, 21:49
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
If VM updated their V6 box's software + a few tweaks here and there, they could probably stream their TV service over a BT line...
That is... seeing as some people will be streaming Sky Q over their virgin cable.
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02-02-2018, 13:06
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by Onramp
That is... seeing as some people will be streaming Sky Q over their virgin cable.
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I would assume Sky will insist on their own broadband being purchased too when this TV service over broadband is launched. We'll know more once they announce the finer details.
Good job too, don't want my VM broadband speed being effected by others streaming all day and night
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02-02-2018, 13:16
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cf.member
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
Sky doesn't have its own network, so cannot guarantee the necessary broadband speed like Virgin Media can. For Sky to tie its dishless service to its broadband will result in lower sales.
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02-02-2018, 13:21
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
Could Virgin share their broadband with Sky? Would that be determined by spare capacity, if they have any of course, it could also open up talks for negotiating any channels/UHD that Sky could offer Virgin, interesting times ahead I think.
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02-02-2018, 13:32
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by gunner45
Sky doesn't have its own network, so cannot guarantee the necessary broadband speed like Virgin Media can. For Sky to tie its dishless service to its broadband will result in lower sales.
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Sky uses Openreach lines to your home but all the equipment and core network you connect to is Sky's. BT guarantee it's TV service using multicast across it's own network and Sky could just as easily do the same in fact I'd be amazed if this product was opened to up to people on different ISP's at least early on as Sky wouldn't be able to guarantee service levels.
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02-02-2018, 15:24
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cf.member
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
Are you saying that Sky has its LLU equipment in all its customers' exchanges? I find this to be unlikely.
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02-02-2018, 17:53
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by gunner45
Are you saying that Sky has its LLU equipment in all its customers' exchanges? I find this to be unlikely.
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Sky has its kit in 2794 exchanges if you want the exact figure there is only Talk Talk with more exchanges covered.
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02-02-2018, 18:21
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
The problem for operators such as Sky is that their broadband is based on inferior technology compared with the cable of Virgin Media. Sky may have very good LLU coverage but is reliant on Openreach. I probably cannot get more than 40mbps from Sky due to factors such as the distance between my house and the cabinet in which the DSLAM is installed and how Openreach configured the VDSL2 in the cabinet. In contrast, I get more than the promised 200mbps from Virgin Media's VIVID 200, and I have confidence that Virgin Media can deliver its service as it controls the optical nodes and line cards in the hub sites where contention can occur.
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02-02-2018, 18:27
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
I don’t doubt you do get good speeds but there are still areas on Virgin what suffer heavily with peak time contention. Virgin is unbeatable in many areas but certainly not all.
People are jumping to conclusions with Sky Q over Broadband , for instance where has it said UHD will be available , where has it said the same amount of simultaneous recordings will be available.
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02-02-2018, 20:25
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
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I thought I'd seen something mentioned about this before, thanks sp,the thing is, would they let Sky use Virgin's existing BB service to facilitate their new dish free offering, which would obviously result in Virgin losing customers, but at a cost to Sky?
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