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Old 22-02-2021, 11:12   #481
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Re: Britain outside the EU

Sales of electric cars are included in the EU trade deal, so not affected by Brexit.
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However, Ellesmere Port could still be used to build an electric or hybrid version of the new car.
Mr Tavares said he welcomed the trade agreement reached between the UK and the EU - and added that the terms of the deal meant electric cars could now be built in the UK or in continental Europe.
On paper, he said, it might make more sense to invest in Europe, because "the biggest market is on the continental Europe side".
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However, the government's decision to ban the sale of new petrol and diesel cars from 2030 - with the exception of some hybrids - has impacted that decision.
"If governments create situations that destroy the business model, we stop investing of course", said Mr Tavares.
"If we are told that in 2030 internal combustion engines cannot be sold in the UK - which we respect as a decision from the country - then are not going to invest in internal combustion engines any more. Because that makes no sense", he added.
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Old 22-02-2021, 11:13   #482
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Might this Vauxhall problem have happened anyway, COVID and all that?

I’m assuming, rightly, of course, that Andrew is still in I told you so mode.

People will condemn opinions as Captain Hindsight or told you so.

I'm optimistic on Ellesmere Port, Seph, if Nissan is anything to go by. The fact that we're in discussions is very positive. The proposed battery factory at Coventry might just tip things.
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Old 22-02-2021, 13:42   #483
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The Ellesmere Port plant has been “at risk” every single time it’s needed re-tooled for a new Astra, going back decades. The heart of GM’s strategy in Europe was always the Opel brand, and Ellesmere Port and Luton were the symbolic last remnants of Vauxhall. Now, the new parent company has changed and Covid has slaughtered the economy. Plus, even if we were still in the EU, there are generous ‘structural funds’ (a.k.a. ‘Bribes’) available to suck these sorts of manufacturing jobs eastwards. If they do announce it’s shutting I have no doubt the usual suspects will greet the news with barely concealed glee and insist it proves them right about Brexit. The Portuguese former Renault COO who now runs Stellantis may even use it as a convenient excuse. The facts will of course speak otherwise.
Don't know who these usual suspects are - and I thought we'd all been told not to use this term?

I'm hopeful as Stellantis has previously said the merger between PSA and FCA was not about closing plants. The UK is a big market for the company. Let's see how things develop.
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Old 22-02-2021, 14:14   #484
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Don't know who these usual suspects are - and I thought we'd all been told not to use this term?

I'm hopeful as Stellantis has previously said the merger between PSA and FCA was not about closing plants. The UK is a big market for the company. Let's see how things develop.
"Hopeful" at this stage is as good as it gets. They will have to assess the sales volumes of product brought in from the EU vs product made here by one of he other motor manufacturers, including the Japanese plants.
Indeed we might see the Stellantis plants taken over by Nissan, for example.
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Old 22-02-2021, 15:58   #485
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And that's just in the UK.
Perhaps if the EU allowed chlorinated washing.
It'd be even worse, hundreds of Americans die each year because their food hygiene is so abysmal
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"Hopeful" at this stage is as good as it gets. They will have to assess the sales volumes of product brought in from the EU vs product made here by one of he other motor manufacturers, including the Japanese plants.
Indeed we might see the Stellantis plants taken over by Nissan, for example.
Nissan's reducing capacity in Europe, not expanding. The Honda site in Swindon is up for grabs if anyone needs a new car manufacturing site.
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It'd be even worse, hundreds of Americans die each year because their food hygiene is so abysmal
"It is estimated that each year FBD [food-borne disease] causes approximately 5,000 deaths in the USA and 718 deaths in England and Wales" (Source: WHO)

So adjusting for population size, not much different.
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Old 22-02-2021, 19:43   #488
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"It is estimated that each year FBD [food-borne disease] causes approximately 5,000 deaths in the USA and 718 deaths in England and Wales" (Source: WHO)

So adjusting for population size, not much different.
On the contrary, that death rate is quite significantly worse in the USA. If you scale up the England/Wales rate to the size of the USA's population it equates to a little under 4,000 deaths, which is 20% lower than the USA.
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It'd be even worse, hundreds of Americans die each year because their food hygiene is so abysmal
That's from their cooking practices more than anything. IE Not washing hands properly or cooking it properly.


The Poland issue caused an increase in UK cases and also involved cases in other countries the Polish chicken was exported to.
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Raw material for the products came from Poland and they were distributed to Brunei, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Falkland Islands, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Guernsey, Ireland, Israel, Jersey, Malta, Norway, Saint Helena, Saudi Arabia Spain and Thailand.
Now include the cases from those countries.

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Re: Britain outside the EU

I'm (not) surprised Andrew hasn't post this yet.

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About 1,000 EU finance firms are eyeing up opening offices in the UK for the first time, according to financial consultancy Bovill.

A Freedom of Information (FOI) request by the firm found that 1,500 money managers, payment firms and insurers have applied for permission to continue operating in the UK after Brexit.

Around two-thirds had no prior physical operations in Britain, it said.

It suggests London "is set to remain a key global financial centre", it added.
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Re: Britain outside the EU

Remainers tend to be half-empty as in I-told-you-so. Sometimes they put in the odd bit of non-bad news but quickly revert to type.

I'd like to know how Lord Frost is getting on with sorting out GB to NI goods traffic? To my mind this is an Article 16 matter for which there is a due process.
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That's from their cooking practices more than anything. IE Not washing hands properly or cooking it properly.
I watched a channel 4 documentary called the truth about chlorinated chicken the other day, the thing I took from it is if we let it in there is no way we couldn't drop our standards here to compete with them, the practices from handling the meat, to conditions in the factory for cleanliness and opportunities for cross contamination are not things we should tolerate here under any circumstances and that's without even mentioning how the staff are treated
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Remainers tend to be half-empty as in I-told-you-so. Sometimes they put in the odd bit of non-bad news but quickly revert to type.

I'd like to know how Lord Frost is getting on with sorting out GB to NI goods traffic? To my mind this is an Article 16 matter for which there is a due process.
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Re: Britain outside the EU

Animal husbandry in the US is among the worst in the world. Why, even if safe, would we want to promote that?
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Disgusting! must be a California thing, it wouldn't happen in the bible belt.........
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