Corbyn's kerfuffle - Page 21

Osem · 31-05-2016, 18:20

I see invisible Labour is finally now doing its best to get its EU message across whilst capitalising on the disorder in HMG's ranks:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...for-sharing-a/

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John McDonnell has attacked Sadiq Khan for sharing a platform with David Cameron ahead of the EU referendum.

In a sign of the growing split in Labour over the referendum, Labour's shadow chancellor accused Mr Khan, the new Mayor of London, of "discrediting" himself by appearing alongside Mr Cameron in support of the Remain campaign.

Speaking in Wolverhampton on Monday night, he said the controversial move "demotivates the very people we are trying to mobilise".

heero_yuy · 08-06-2016, 17:08

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Jeremy Corbyn represents the “politics of protest” and is standing by while people are “bombed, beaten and starved into submission” in Syria, Tony Blair has said, in his most vehement attack on the Labour leader yet.

The former Prime Minister, who is awaiting the publication of the Chilcot Report into the Iraq War, dismissed Mr Corbyn as the “guy with the placard” and suggested he was incapable of making the “difficult decisions” required of a world leader.

Attacking Mr Corbyn, who has suggested that Mr Blair should face a war crimes investigation, the former Labour leader told Bloomberg: “I’m accused of being a war criminal for removing Saddam Hussein – who by the way was a war criminal – and yet Jeremy is seen as a progressive icon as we stand by and watch the people of Syria barrel-bombed, beaten and starved into submission and do nothing.”

Linky

So Bliar isn't impressed with Jezzer.

Osem · 13-07-2016, 09:41

Death threats, intimidation, bricks through windows... The nastiness is really not very far beneath the surface of Corbyn's 'new politics' is it. For someone who apparently abhors such nastiness, he's doesn't seem to be doing very much to stop it all...

Just like many of their ilk over the years, McDonnell evidently hasn't changed much from the days when he wanted to assassinate Thatcher. He's certainly not averse to a bit of nastiness or cosying up to some very unpleasant folk.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...edy-night.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ent-protest-h/

http://order-order.com/people/gerry-downing/

I suppose calling colleagues 'effing useless' is one of the lesser examples of the sort of stuff this guy is renowned for:

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...-plotters-fing

That well known and really nasty Tory Margaret Hodge has been moved to say this:

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A senior Labour MP has compared the “dirty politics” being thrown at Jeremy Corbyn’s opponents to the turmoil which gripped the party in the 1980s.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...ng-labour-just

Her memory is as good as mine then. They were truly nasty people then and they still are.

13-07-2016, 10:08

Watched 2 labour mp's on the BBC news this morning refusing to stand next to each other to be interviewed ,quite childish really and certainly not what i expect from our political class

Osem · 13-07-2016, 10:57

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Originally Posted by martyh

Watched 2 labour mp's on the BBC news this morning refusing to stand next to each other to be interviewed ,quite childish really and certainly not what i expect from our political class

Yup. It's really quite pathetic and it'd be funny if we weren't talking about the main opposition party. There's some pretty nasty people calling the shots within the Labour party right now but thankfully they just can't help revealing their true colours for those without rose tinted specs to see.

Can you honestly imagine any Tory chancellor, for example, saying and doing the sort of things McDonnell has? I reckon they still think they're student activists who quite like going around being nasty and obnoxious whilst making excuses for it. I'm just waiting for the odious former Militant member and property developing wheeler dealer Degsy to make a return. There's another complete hypocrite for you.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/a...ls-Cyprus.html

Osem · 14-07-2016, 09:03

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A Labour donor is launching a legal challenge to the party's ruling that Jeremy Corbyn can be automatically included in the leadership ballot.
Michael Foster, whose family gave £400,000 to the party, said he was worried about "apparent manipulation" of the rules by Labour's ruling body, the National Executive Committee (NEC).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36791782

Looks like this thing's going on and on. Good job Labour haven't got anything more important to do eh?

techguyone · 14-07-2016, 09:34

It seems a bit odd that a political party as large and as old as Labour doesn't have any mechanism for dethroning a leader they've lost confidence in or even to have proper rules that clearly state who can or can't be automatically eligible for inclusion for a leadership contest.

Yes I know Labour is bigger than the party, there's also the unions & members etc etc, but as we've seen, if you get a rather... contrary leader and people seemingly out to poke two fingers up at the establishment, then you get the kind of farcical antics within Labour that are still ongoing.

Maybe someone should tell them, cause it's making them look like rank amateurs.

Osem · 14-07-2016, 09:40

Quite. I'd like to know how many of their £3 members are genuine, because it's not much for anyone to pay in order to keep a complete idiot at the helm of Her Majesty's Opposition.

techguyone · 14-07-2016, 10:28

Newer members have to pay £25 lol maybe it's a new way to raise money

Stuart · 14-07-2016, 10:28

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Originally Posted by Osem

Death threats, intimidation, bricks through windows... The nastiness is really not very far beneath the surface of Corbyn's 'new politics' is it. For someone who apparently abhors such nastiness, he's doesn't seem to be doing very much to stop it all...

I've not seen Jeremy Corbyn do anything as leader. Nothing before the EU Referendum, nothing during and only a little bit of bitching after.

This is why I don't think he is a good leader. We've had years of the tories doing things that *should* have been a gift for any opposition leader. They've been cutting benefits to the poorest people in society, and all the while seeming to have little impact on the debt they claim the cuts are needed to pay off. Both Ed Miliband and Jeremy Corbyn have failed to capitalise on this. Both barely even made mention of it.

During the referendum, arguably the most important vote of a generation, he seemingly did NOTHING to put his views forward. I listened to Dead Ringers, and they had a spoof interview with Corbyn. The interviewer said he'd done nothing during the campaign. Corbin disagreed and said he'd done one interview on TV and worn a badge. That was obviously a joke, but I don't think it's far from the truth.

After, his own leadership was threatened, and beyond ensuring he can participate in any upcoming leadership contest, again, he has done nothing. He should be attacking his enemies.

He may be a worthy MP and believe in fighting for his constituents (as I have been told by various Corbyn supporting friends), but that is not enough for the leader of a political party. He has to FIGHT for what he believes in. If the party disagrees, he needs to at least try and bring it into line.

14-07-2016, 10:44

Labour with corbyn are unelectable no one in their right mind would vote for them trouble is after everything lately I'm not sure they are electable with anyone at the helm and if Theresa may genuinely means what she says and backs it up with meaningful action she will be more labour then the labour party has been recently. Interesting times ahead that's for sure and I doubt many will be shedding tears at Cameron's and Osbourne going they might have talked a good fight but neither really fought one.

Ignitionnet · 14-07-2016, 12:49

Had Jeremy Corbyn shown half the enthusiasm leading the party he has clinging onto power I might've been able to show some support.

As it is, no longer a member of any party.

Osem · 14-07-2016, 15:25

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Originally Posted by techguyone

Newer members have to pay £25 lol maybe it's a new way to raise money

£25 is cheap for such great entertainment I reckon. I just hope that Corbyn's legacy will be a party worthy of the name but it'll have happened in spite of him not because of him. With a bit of luck it'll also signal the end of the rose tinted dinosaurs.

Osem · 19-07-2016, 17:55

To challenge or not to challenge? That is the question...

Well having dithered about it for days, then finally decided to challenge Corbyn for the leadership, it seems Angela Eagle's decided it wasn't such a good idea after all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36838808

Oh dear...

19-07-2016, 18:19

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Originally Posted by Osem

To challenge or not to challenge? That is the question...

Well having dithered about it for days, then finally decided to challenge Corbyn for the leadership, it seems Angela Eagle's decided it wasn't such a good idea after all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36838808

Oh dear...

She was like Leadsom ,too damn flaky