Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
17-12-2021, 14:06
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2023? Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
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Really, how many times have labour won in the last 40 years
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A fair call.
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17-12-2021, 14:42
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2023? Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
Baroness Davidson out saying it’s last chance saloon for BJ.
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17-12-2021, 15:31
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2023? Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
Lots of people saying it's the last chance for Boris . . . probably many of the same people that said Brexit wouldn't happen, England would win the World Cup, and the Scots will gain independence
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17-12-2021, 16:51
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2023? Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
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Really, how many times have labour won in the last 40 years
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Three : They ruled from 1997 - 2010.
(from 1997 to 2005 they had the largest majority since the 1930's).
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This was clearly a "protest" vote.
Labour also lost out (even worse really, they lost more than 50% of their votes).
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Labour, which came second in the constituency at the 2019 election, saw its share of the vote fall from 22.1% to 9.7%.
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17-12-2021, 16:58
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2023? Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
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Three : They ruled from 1997 - 2010.
(from 1997 to 2005 they had the largest majority since the 1930's).
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Was kind of a rhetorical question but when it's written down like that they just might be stupid enough to think they're onto a good thing
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17-12-2021, 17:07
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2023? Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
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It would appear that there’s been a degree of tactical voting based on the following, but as you say very poor turnout also
LDEM: 47.2% (+37.2)
CON: 31.6% (-31.1)
LAB: 9.7% (-12.4)
GRN: 4.6% (+1.4)
REFUK: 3.8% (+3.8)
Turnout: 46.3% (-21.6)
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So as is normally the case most of the voters didn't want LDEM but got them any way .
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17-12-2021, 17:15
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2022?
I don't think he'll last the year. Certainly doesn't deserve to last the year.
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17-12-2021, 17:26
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2023? Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
It would appear that there’s been a degree of tactical voting based on the following, but as you say very poor turnout also
LDEM: 47.2% (+37.2)
CON: 31.6% (-31.1)
LAB: 9.7% (-12.4)
GRN: 4.6% (+1.4)
REFUK: 3.8% (+3.8)
Turnout: 46.3% (-21.6)
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So as is normally the case most of the voters didn't want LDEM but got them any way .
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Ahem...
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17-12-2021, 18:47
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2023? Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
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Ahem...
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You going to have to explain your point.
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17-12-2021, 18:48
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2023? Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
Most of the voters didn’t get the party they wanted in the General Election but got them anyway (to quote itshim)…
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17-12-2021, 18:54
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2022?
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I don't think he'll last the year. Certainly doesn't deserve to last the year.
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2022 will be interesting.
Unlike The Times, the Conservative Party has not sacked him for lying.
So he may well see it through.
Interesting times...
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17-12-2021, 19:45
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2022?
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Unlike The Times, the Conservative Party has not sacked him for lying.
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One wonders if he's taken a leaf from the Cummings "get yer own back" book, and has armed himself with copies of some nice juicy Emails and private letters . . . . you know, just in case
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17-12-2021, 21:00
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2022?
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One wonders if he's taken a leaf from the Cummings "get yer own back" book, and has armed himself with copies of some nice juicy Emails and private letters . . . . you know, just in case
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Yes but Boris wrote them all so it would be self-incriminating
I genuinely believe we will see him in court one day. Which court and on which charge is the question , there's many possibilities......
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18-12-2021, 16:39
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2023? Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
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So as is normally the case most of the voters didn't want LDEM but got them any way .
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As l said " as normally"
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Most of the voters didn’t get the party they wanted in the General Election but got them anyway (to quote itshim)…
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So we agree
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Ahem...
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18-12-2021, 17:03
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Re: Will Johnson be PM in 2023? Liberal Democrats comfortably take North Shropshire
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As l said " as normally"
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So we agree
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If your assertion is correct - that most voters get the Liberal Democrats but don't vote for them - then surely the government in power would be Liberal Democrat and not Conservative?
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