Coronavirus

[Mr K]

Apparently the vaccine contains a chip so the Govt can control and trace us all....

This virus might have the benefit of bumping off the more stupid who won't have the vaccine. Natural always wins !

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Apparently the vaccine contains a chip so the Govt can control and trace us all....

This virus might have the benefit of bumping off the more stupid who won't have the vaccine. Natural always wins !

Oh I say old chap, that's a bit harsh considering there are people who, due to medical reasons, are unable - or advised not to - have the vaccine.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Pierre

There's some real BS on here at the moment, but I'll humour you.



No, no need. ( BTW My school hasn't asked for a negative test for my kids to attend.)



That would come under "showing symptoms" header



That requirement is only if you have had symptoms or been in close contact with some that has had symptoms.

There is no such requirement for visiting people or people visiting. but I have requested 3days which is above and beyond what is currently required.



we're not a shop, so there is no such requirement



That is brilliant, quite brilliant. This is where the country is at the moment. If you can't see the rank stupidity in that sentence......well. Or are you just taking the piss for a laugh?

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You're right I haven't, and neither have you.


I didn't say it wasn't anything to worry about.

As I said I will be taking reasonable precautions.



I am using common sense and I haven't invited anyone else that I don't know that I have to consider.

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you're right I haven't, and neither have you.



I didn't say it was nothing to worry and I'm taking sensible precautions



I am using common sense, and I've not invited any strangers to consider.

You stated that you and guest would be taking sensible precautions. I’ve listed some, I’m asking you to clarify what ‘sensible precautions’ you and your guests will be taking.

That’s all

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Pierre

For Christmas it is yes.

So won’t criticise you for being a worrying Grinch that wants everyone to unreasonably spend Christmas in isolation even though they accept the futility of it.

And you don’t criticise me for being an outrageous risk taker just because I want a few in-laws over for Christmas dinner whilst being sensible and following current guidance.

And the country will be happier place.

If Bojo wasn't so scared of being the Grinch we wouldn't need this conversation.

[nomadking]

The original claim was:-

Originally Posted by Pierre

The levels of hysteria on CF (and if it is any reflection, the wider population) at the moment are beyond laughable and bordering on psychosis.

Seeing a few friends and family over Christmas will not harm anyone and will probably do everybody good.
Take precautions act sensibly. Enjoy yourself, Don't worry.

No mention of self-isolating or anything like that. Basically a free for all.
In general, the only possible precautions and acting sensibly involves not meeting up at all. No getting around that.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

You stated that you and guest would be taking sensible precautions. I’ve listed some, I’m asking you to clarify what ‘sensible precautions’ you and your guests will be taking.

That’s all

I suspect it's very technical, possibly ground breaking. Might have to wait for the official article in the Lancet.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

You stated that you and guest would be taking sensible precautions. I’ve listed some, I’m asking you to clarify what ‘sensible precautions’ you and your guests will be taking.

That’s all

I’ve already stated what precautions will be taken.

None of what you suggested was sensible

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I’ve already stated what precautions will be taken.

None of what you suggested was sensible

Your claim was that anyone could meet up, not just people connected to you.
Link

The outbreak of novel coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) continues to spread rapidly in China. The Chinese Lunar New Year holiday, the start of which coincided with the emergence of COVID-19, is the most celebratory time of the year in China, during which a massive human migration takes place as individuals travel back to their hometowns.
...
Government policies enacted during the Chinese Lunar New Year holiday are likely to have helped reduce the spread of the virus by decreasing contact and increasing physical distance between those who have COVID-19 and those who do not. As part of these social distancing policies, the Chinese Government encouraged people to stay at home; discouraged mass gatherings; cancelled or postponed large public events; and closed schools, universities, government offices, libraries, museums, and factories

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by nomadking

The original claim was:-

No mention of self-isolating or anything like that.

In my very next post after that, the very next one, when asked what that meant I said

Like isolating for a few days, not coming if they have symptoms or have been with in contact with someone that has had symptoms.

So

Basically a free for all.

No, I don’t even know what that means.

In general, the only possible precautions and acting sensibly involves not meeting up at all. No getting around that.

Not in my house.

You guys are very welcome to your isolationist Christmases, although deep down I reckon it’s because that’s what you do every year, but I won’t be.

As stated previously, I will be adhering to Govt guidance whilst enjoying a family Christmas with guests.

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Originally Posted by daveeb

I suspect it's very technical, possibly ground breaking. Might have to wait for the official article in the Lancet.

I’ve already stated it many times.

Anyway Merry Christmas! I’ll be having one, even if you’re not.

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Your claim was that anyone could meet up, not just people connected to you.
Link

Just where exactly did I say that?

[jfman]

Pierre how did that golfing holiday to Portugal go?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Pierre how did that golfing holiday to Portugal go?

Had to bin it, due to Portugal going on the banned list. 8 of us were going, 4 went, 4 stayed. We went to Telford for the weekend instead and played 3 rounds around there.

I would have gone, but if I’d have gone, Mrs Pierre would have had to isolate too when I returned ( unless I stayed in the shed).

But I got my money back, even the flights from Ryanair, which I had mentally written off.

Roll on 2021. If anyone drops out I”ll give you a shout.

[jfman]

That’s a win vs Ryanair. We can set our differences aside for the common enemy there.

Merry Christmas all when it comes. It’s been a sh tty year.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

(unless I stayed in the shed).

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COVID-19 vaccine rollout may be delayed - with IT system 'failing constantly'

The rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine could be delayed by technical issues, doctors and health officials have warned, after the first week of the vaccination programme was marred by difficulties with data collection.

GP practices have been forced to collect data on the rollout of the Pfizer vaccine by hand, following problems with the software being used to keep track of who has been given the jab.

A senior health official told Sky News that the IT system, known as Pinnacle, was "failing constantly" and that GPs were "having to record on paper and then transfer".

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...antly-12164829

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Pierre

In my very next post after that, the very next one, when asked what that meant I said


So
No, I don’t even know what that means.


Not in my house.

You guys are very welcome to your isolationist Christmases, although deep down I reckon it’s because that’s what you do every year, but I won’t be.

As stated previously, I will be adhering to Govt guidance whilst enjoying a family Christmas with guests.

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I’ve already stated it many times.

Anyway Merry Christmas! I’ll be having one, even if you’re not.

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Just where exactly did I say that?

Your original post on the matter

Originally Posted by Pierre

The levels of hysteria on CF (and if it is any reflection, the wider population) at the moment are beyond laughable and bordering on psychosis.

Seeing a few friends and family over Christmas will not harm anyone and will probably do everybody good.

Take precautions act sensibly. Enjoy yourself, Don't worry.

In fact there's not even a mention of it including your household. Eg "Take precautions" rather than "we have taken precautions", "act sensibly" rather than "we have acted sensibly, "enjoy yourself" rather than "we are going to enjoy ourselves", "don't worry" rather than "we're not worried".
You only came up with the list of excuses that have been debunked, when challenged about it.
A household having isolated itself, doesn't come under "take precautions" or "act sensibly". Those 2 things refer to what happens at the gathering, not before it.

There will be households that have fully isolated themselves, but that restriction wasn't in your original post. That made your original post a "free for all", where any households could get together.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Your original post on the matter

it’s so sad that you are desperate to prove that I said something that I clearly didn’t.

In fact there's not even a mention of it including your household. Eg "Take precautions" rather than "we have taken precautions", "act sensibly" rather than "we have acted sensibly, "enjoy yourself" rather than "we are going to enjoy ourselves", "don't worry" rather than "we're not worried".

That post is clearly directed at the general CF viewership. Of which you are one.

You only came up with the list of excuses that have been debunked, when challenged about it.

I haven’t made any excuses, nor have I had to, neither has any of my statements been « debunked » feel free to post the « debunking »

A household having isolated itself, doesn't come under "take precautions" or "act sensibly". Those 2 things refer to what happens at the gathering, not before it.

I wasn’t referring to the very small % of households that may « have to » self isolate. I clearly state in a post that vulnerable/at risk groups should of course do what they think is necessary.

The original post was aimed at those taken in by fear, and wanting to « cancel Christmas » when there is no need to.

There will be households that have fully isolated themselves,

if they have to, then good for them

but that restriction wasn't in your original post.

So?

That made your original post a "free for all", where any households could get together.

Only in your mind, you need to think a bit more sensibly otherwise you will come across as reckless with that mentality. Stick to friends and family and take sensible precautions.