disability living allowance

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Is there any reason as to why you're so desperately spamming the thread with your URL?? Is it that you're desperate to inform people or more desperate to increase your revenue stream??

I wonder sometimes

Oh dear. Now I know you really are quite amateurish at this business.

My post was in response to a person that stated that it is not "an us or them" situation. Those of us who have been at this for years know different, and know of the human suffering caused by our very own DWP.

The DWP are acting illegally and ignoring many laws that are there to protect you. There are now actually ignoring the ECJ and if anyone wants proof of this, direct to me from the EU just email me carolwhitie@yahoo.co.uk

I came here to help but your last comment indicates to me that your parent will be glad when the school holidays are over. If I am wrong then prove you post...... as in what revenue stream?

I have never taken of asked for a bean to help people. I cant help you have a warped mind, can I?

Originally Posted by CAROLWHITIE

Oh dear. Now I know you really are quite amateurish at this business.

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Nobody comes on these forums and abuses any of the membership and the team which manage these boards - Also check out the age of the person you are talking to before coming out with a load of stupid nonsense.

Life begins at 40 eh Kymmy? You will be going back to school soon according to Carol.

[Kymmy]

Oh gawd I hope not!!!! had enough of that in the '80's!!!

[webcrawler2050]

As I can't be bothered to read through that womans poor writing, what did I miss?

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

As I can't be bothered to read through that womans poor writing, what did I miss?

You missed her being told off for accusing someone of "poor writing"!

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

As I can't be bothered to read through that womans poor writing, what did I miss?

Rants, lots of Rants.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

I've never had to deal with the DWP but are they as bad as she makes out?

HHHmmm I have had problems when applying for DLA and had to appeal at one point. But I guess it's like anything there are good AND bad on both sides.

The only thing that I'd say is I don't trust the social services enough to let them spend my money for me.

Originally Posted by Thomas T

HHHmmm I have had problems when applying for DLA and had to appeal at one point. But I guess it's like anything there are good AND bad on both sides.

The only thing that I'd say is I don't trust the social services enough to let them spend my money for me.

All she has done in this thread is detract from the Green paper which was highlighted here.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...ts-page-2.html

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

I hope she likes spam showing her email addy. Poetic justice really IMHO.

I've never had to deal with the DWP but are they as bad as she makes out?

they are but shes doing a good job of making them look normal compared to her

[Albertdickon]

Good Morning one and all.

I have been reading here for sometime and finally I decided to post. My reason for this is that there are many here under the misconception that obtaining DLA is not like entering into a war zone.

Well you are all fully entitled to your opinion. However a carful scrutiny of the DLA application form will reveal that it is rather full of trick question. One inconsistent answer will disqualify you immediately. And that is just for starters.

I would urge all new applicants to seek specialist advice from disabled charities or the Citizen’s Advice Bureau or even a solicitor specialising in DLA applications.

Kindly remember please one and all, that the DWP are currently in open breach of an ECJ ruling of 18 October 2007, and are steadfastly disregarding EU law despite pressure from many to do the right thing and observe the law as they are required to do.

I have been involved with this action and I am fully aware of cases in this particular matter where people have suffered badly from stress related illness, and these people are already ill and were on DLA. (If any one wants further information just do a Google Search for Exporting DLA).

I strongly fee that when we have our own DWP who openly ignores the ECJ then they are capable of just about anything

Therefore always be on your toes in your dealing with them. Forewarned is forearmed to combat those whom would cause you harm.

There is excellent progress being made on the opposition to the Green Paper. This paper indicates to me an intention to see the beginning of the end of social benefits as we know them. Fortunately, there has already been the threat of a back bench revolt over this issue.

Good luck one and all. I doubt if I will have anything further to useful contribute to these matters, but will be a keen observer.

[Osem]

Perhaps anyone who doubts the onerous nature of the DLA forms and claims process should download a set and work through the questions as if, say, they were the parent of a severely disabled child or themselves disabled.

Of course this will only give an insight into what the disabled have to go through on a regular basis (in addition to coping with their disabilities of course) but it might just open a few eyes... Having said that, very few people who aren't disabled and reliant on DLA will really appreciate the stress, pressure and often emotional 'pain' involved in claiming, knowing that a slip-up or omission might cause severe delays to a claim or even the rejection of it.

Good suggestion Osem and one i recommend everyone on this forum to do as it will give you a chance to see how badly worded the claim form is and how easy it is to slip up and lose your entitlement. This is what we have to do we have to help people who are not afflicted yet (sorry but anyone can become disabled at anytime not that i am wishing it on anyone) and don't understand how hard the process is or how easily it can be rejected for genuine people.

Despite what the government says at times this is not and never has been about cutting fraud it is about cutting the number of claims and reducing the amount of money that is paid out because it is easier to hit benefit claimants and less risky poiltically then to do something really useful like cut tax fraud.

[nomadking]

One of the infamous problems is the DWP's (deliberate?) misinterpretation of the "main meal test". This according to the DWP's own Decision Makers Guide, evidence given to a Commons Select Committee and even a House of Lords ruling, is that it is a hypothetical test.
Evidence given to a Commons Select Committee:-

"5. The main meal test is a hypothetical examination of ability to prepare and cook a meal, which is seen as a proxy of ability to perform a wide range of household tasks. These include both physical and mental activities, such as manual dexterity, ability to stand, bend and reach, and ability to plan and execute activities. The test is independent of the household appliances which are available to the claimant."

Whereas the DWP treat it as a direct test of ability to use a cooker and not the test of the activities involved. An example would be that if you had problems standing for a period of time then would say that you could use a stool(even if that is even more painful/difficult). The law says that the problem is not standing just to use a cooker, but standing in order to perform any household task. Similarly with bending down to use an oven, the DWP just say that you don't have to use an oven. The law says that it is the activity of bending down that is being 'tested', not just use of an oven.

A bit more information here, about eligibility for DLA - Linky (for those, like me, who didn't know much about the details before this thread raised my interest).

You may be able to get Disability Living Allowance if you are aged under 65 and you have needed supervision or help with personal care, or had walking difficulties because of a physical or mental disability for three months, and you are likely to need this help or have these difficulties for at least another six months.

From people I have spoken to at DWP/DCS, and support organisations, people don't get DLA because they have a disability, DLA is given depending on the impact of the disability - how much help is needed.

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

A bit more information here, about eligibility for DLA - Linky (for those, like me, who didn't know much about the details before this thread raised my interest).


From people I have spoken to at DWP/DCS, and support organisations, people don't get DLA because they have a disability, DLA is given depending on the impact of the disability - how much help is needed.

very true but thats not what the forms tell them asking if they cope isnt the same as seeing how much pain and or medication they need that isnt normal

when asked if i had a good day in no way equates to a well persons good day

the forms are designed to make people think that they should put down the best they can do and not the norm of what they can do