The energy crisis

Originally Posted by jfman

Indeed it covers multiple governments of varying colours. Economic boom doesn't exempt those periods from being part of a failure too if it's not matched by rising wages and living standards across the board. If economic success looks like our decimated town centres of bookies, pound shops, charity shops and rough sleepers I'd hate to see what failure looks like.

I'm not making a party political point despite what Mick believes, I don't view politics the same way I support a football team.

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Dear Snp, if you read cable forum can you get the Labour minority run Edinburgh council (propped up by the Tories and Lib Dems) to sort out the bins. Thanks. Jfman

Done. And it didn't solve the energy crisis.

Don’t get flippant with me. The Herald ran a story urging SNP to step in to solve the crisis to prevent it becoming a national embarrassment, so it is still their (SNP’s) problem.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mick

Don’t get flippant with me. The Herald ran a story urging SNP to step in to solve the crisis to prevent it becoming a national embarrassment, so it is still their (SNP’s) problem.

Are the Tories stepping into local government disputes England? Or are things simply that bad down there it wouldn't class as a national embarrassment?

Originally Posted by jfman

Are the Tories stepping into local government disputes England? Or are things simply that bad down there it wouldn't class as a national embarrassment?

Are there local government disputes to the same magnitude of overflowing bins in Edinburgh, caused by Strikes?

Overflowing bins full of rotting food is a health hazard, not to mention a frigging eye sore.

Still a SNP problem, but you can’t bring yourself to trash your pathetic party, can you?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mick

Are there local government disputes to the same magnitude of overflowing bins in Edinburgh, caused by Strikes?

Overflowing bins full of rotting food is a health hazard, not to mention a frigging eye sore.

Still a SNP problem, but you can’t bring yourself to trash your pathetic party, can you?

I'm not in the SNP so I don't really associate myself with the compelling urge to defend and deflect from their inadequacies in the way you do with the Tories.

In an independent Scotland with the macroeconomic levers to intervene in the energy market, on inflation, and with borrowing powers I probably wouldn't vote for the SNP.

I welcome overflowing bins though. Nothing puts the great in Great Britain more than poor public services, half the country in fuel poverty and shit flowing in the seas.

I’m eagerly awaiting the autumn TV schedules. Perhaps now’s the time to bring back It Ain’t Half Hot Mum and Til Death Us Do Part.

Originally Posted by jfman

I'm not in the SNP so I don't really associate myself with the compelling urge to defend and deflect from their inadequacies in the way you do with the Tories.

In an independent Scotland with the macroeconomic levers to intervene in the energy market, on inflation, and with borrowing powers I probably wouldn't vote for the SNP.

I welcome overflowing bins though. Nothing puts the great in Great Britain more than poor public services, half the country in fuel poverty and shit flowing in the seas.

I don’t defend the Tories, actually, another ridiculous accusation from you, yeah it’s a party I support, will vote for, but it absolutely has issues that it must address with the nation.

I challenge your views because you only appear to Tory bash, when other parties are just as shit for something.

You still need to watch your flippancy btw.

[tweetiepooh]

During the boom times we should have been investing and saving but we just spent and spent not always wisely. We raised our lifestyles too far, nothing wrong with a bit of increase with wage rises but we had far too much excess.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Qtx

So because it might not have gone well in some industries in the past it can't work now in any sector?

Its working great for other countries and they are subsidising it by making profit abroad.

When so much profit is being made it could easily be run the same without profit and decrease our costs.

Where would the investment come from if industries re re-nationalised. It didn’t work before, so what’s changed?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Where would the investment come from if industries re re-nationalised. It didn’t work before, so what’s changed?

Same place the bail outs come from when private companies that are "too big to fail" inevitably do.

You seem to be under the false impression that investment comes from the private sector rather than recognise the parasitic nature of it. It's the end users - customers - funding the minimalistic investment and high dividends.

Hugh linked to a story this morning comparing the dividend payments to investment in to to the water industry.

I am hugely entertained by the implication that the energy market is working. Dare I ask, who for?

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

During the boom times we should have been investing and saving but we just spent and spent not always wisely. We raised our lifestyles too far, nothing wrong with a bit of increase with wage rises but we had far too much excess.

The boom times are like 20 years ago now though.

[Taf]

From Santander:

We're doubling cashback to 4% on your gas and electricity bills


For 2 months from September, we're giving 4% instead of 2% cashback on gas and electricity bills.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Taf

From Santander:

2% for 2 months , that"s big of them !

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Chris

I’m eagerly awaiting the autumn TV schedules. Perhaps now’s the time to bring back It Ain’t Half Hot Mum and Til Death Us Do Part.

And:
- The Twilight Zone
- Desperate Housewives

[Inactive Digital]

Originally Posted by Taf

From Santander:

Doesn't Santander cap each cashback category at £5 per month anyway though? I can't imagine it will help too many people given current prices.

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital

Doesn't Santander cap each cashback category at £5 per month anyway though? I can't imagine it will help too many people given current prices.

They have raised the cap to £10.
However, I think the accounts also have a monthly fee.